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1:02

You guys. Hi, everybody.

1:04

Welcome. Thank you for being here.

1:07

You guys aren't really fans. You're

1:09

friends of ours. So that's

1:11

very nice of you to show up. Thank

1:13

you, everybody. Drive all

1:15

the way out here to Long Island.

1:17

Pay nothing. Really nice. Pay

1:20

nothing. Right. Sit

1:23

here and be like, all right, entertain us.

1:26

We're very excited to be doing

1:29

like, so we're going to

1:31

do four live shows every

1:33

year. You know, we're going

1:36

to do the... We're open to less, Scott,

1:38

but that's fine. We do the regular sort

1:40

of podcast on the computer thing, right? What

1:44

do you watch it, or listen to it on, whatever it is.

1:46

And then we're going to do four lives. This is our first

1:48

one. Very excited. On

1:50

top of that, we've got our

1:52

white whale. This is the... People

1:54

would ask me, like, who have you not interviewed that you want

1:56

it? Howard Stern. Because he doesn't

1:58

do this, and he... He's the

2:00

man. He is the man. Like... No,

2:03

we feel very, very blessed that he... And

2:07

we'll give him that in a second. Is that your intro? No. I

2:10

don't have an intro. Sean's got an intro. Look at the

2:12

cards. I wrote a bunch of them. I do want to

2:14

say something. So... I'm like Fanning.

2:16

Who's the little Dakota Fanning when she was a

2:18

little girl? She was really over-prepared in the best

2:20

way. I did Cat in the Hat with her.

2:22

Go on. Well, you got

2:24

something to trim already. Yeah. The audience is riveted

2:27

by that story. In

2:29

what? Dakota

2:31

Fanning? Well, she's really smart and prepared.

2:35

Okay. I love that about her.

2:39

But everybody here knows who our guest is going to

2:41

be, so there are not a lot of surprises. So

2:44

there is one surprise that we do have

2:47

today, just to kind of get the... Everybody warmed

2:49

up, to get us warmed up a little bit. Yeah. Something

2:52

Sean, you don't know about. Uh-oh. Yeah.

2:55

Don't worry, it's not your dad. We still can't fight him. This

2:57

is... It's

3:01

so fun, because he left. Top

3:05

speed. The tears are still

3:07

wet, huh? I would

3:09

tell you, he came to the last show of

3:11

Goodnight Oscar in Chicago. Yeah. Would

3:13

you want to walk us through that? This is kind of a

3:16

sad story. I don't know if this... We want to... Yeah. Anyway,

3:18

we can get back to that again. That's a true story. He

3:20

did, right? He came to the last show. I

3:22

didn't even know he was there. Did he go backstage? No. No.

3:26

It was wild. Yes, he

3:28

emailed them to me. That

3:30

is pretty weird. Wait, did you see him? I

3:33

didn't. My sister... Tracy? Yes.

3:37

That's correct. He emailed my... Sorry,

3:39

he posted on Facebook

3:41

that he went to the last show, and that's

3:43

all he wrote. And my sister, to bait him

3:45

like, don't you want to say something about your

3:47

son that you haven't seen in 75 years? He

3:50

said... You look great. You look

3:52

great. I remember, 75? And he

3:54

just wrote back Oscar Levant, just like I remembered him. That

3:56

was it. Isn't

3:58

that wild? Anyway. How long have you

4:00

not seen him? 40

4:03

years. And he's in the theater

4:05

with you. You just starred in something. He

4:07

didn't stick around and say, no, what

4:10

a treat. And then wait, and then

4:12

and then check this out. Two gay guys came

4:15

up to Scotty in the audience because Scotty was

4:17

there and they go, are you Scotty? That's not

4:19

the whole story. No. Okay. They

4:23

came up to Scotty and they said, they said, oh,

4:25

I just want to let you know, we live next

4:27

door to Sean's dad. And I understand they don't see

4:30

eye to eye. Was

4:33

that a shot at your mom? For

4:38

those of you who don't know, Sean's

4:40

mom famously has one fake eye. Yes.

4:42

Hat, hat, hat, hat. Because hilariously, she

4:45

died. So

4:47

Sean should be an axe murderer, right? I

4:49

mean, but he's an racist guy. He's

4:53

the kindest. We love him. Well, we all

4:55

have. We all have skeletons. Go ahead. What

4:57

I'd parents. So

5:00

we do have one surprise tonight, just to, you

5:02

know, just trying to bring us out of the

5:05

hole of Sean's upbringing. So

5:08

I've asked the guy to come here tonight just to

5:10

do a little something before we get going. Are you

5:12

serious? I swear to God, yeah. He's an Emmy winner.

5:15

He's a finalist on America's Got Talent. He's

5:19

been on the Jimmy Fallon program,

5:21

amongst others. Is that what it's called, the program? It's

5:24

called the Jimmy Fallon program. That's what the producers tell

5:26

me. I don't know. There he is. Jimmy, thank you,

5:28

Jimmy. Please don't stand

5:30

up. No, please don't stand up. Please sit down.

5:32

Mr. Fallon. I beg you to sit down. Thank

5:36

you to sit down. Fucking love it. God,

5:39

we saw the Olympics. It wasn't an intro, Jimmy. We

5:42

get it. You're on NBC. Yeah. And

5:45

you own Wayfarers. Yeah. By

5:48

the way, Jimmy, on all seriousness, you're a great and

5:50

Jurassic world. I thought that was great. Down

5:53

again. Again, down. But

5:57

he has done so many things. He's

6:00

got it now. He's a geek. No,

6:03

she's not here, man. She didn't make it.

6:06

She's working on her stuff. He's one

6:08

of the world's most sought-after mentalists. He's

6:10

worked with clients ranging from A-list celebrities,

6:12

heads of state, Fortune 500 companies. Guys,

6:16

please welcome the amazing Oz

6:18

Pearlman. Just take us off.

6:22

Guys. Do a little something special for us.

6:24

What? I didn't know. Not

6:27

Dakota Fanning, unfortunately. I know. This

6:29

is our net. What is this surprise to Sean? He was

6:31

waiting for me as dad. I'm sorry, Sean. Wait, can I

6:33

tell you something? Tell me. He sends

6:35

me clips of you all the time. That's what Will told

6:38

me. I'm obsessed. I think this is

6:40

amazing. Sean legit doesn't know anything about this. Sean

6:42

has no idea. This is wild. Will, you have

6:44

my phone number, right? Yeah. And my

6:46

email address? Yeah, I got it all. I don't like clips

6:48

of things. Do you know who this is? Do

6:50

you know who this is? You're too grouchy. He sort of

6:52

clued me into it. It's our smart list on mooseboosh

6:54

today, right? Yeah, yeah. This is so

6:56

cool. This is so cool. Here's my

6:58

deal, Jason. Supposedly I read minds, but if I'm going to know how

7:01

people think, right? And you know what they're

7:03

thinking at the same time. Here's

7:05

Will's skill. Everybody, where are my smart list fans in the

7:07

room? Come on. Where... Will

7:10

notoriously knows dates, years

7:12

behind. Everything. You can tell

7:14

him June 2006, he knows what he's wearing. Jason, can't

7:16

remember what he had for breakfast today. Am I right?

7:18

That's right. Sean, Webby award winner, best host. I thought

7:20

you were going to say Sean ate Jason's breakfast. Yes,

7:22

that might have been. Here's what

7:24

I want you to do. I'm putting tasks. There's tasks out there.

7:28

You're going back in time thinking of somebody that

7:30

these guys would not know. Somebody from your past that

7:32

they were not... You know what? Jason,

7:34

go back in time. Think of the first girl

7:36

you ever had a big crush on. Think

7:39

to how old you were at the time. I got it. And

7:42

tell them, because if I'm listening to this on my podcast

7:44

right now, I'm saying this is set up. This

7:47

is fake. Before today and me asking you to think

7:49

of her, has it been days, months or years since

7:51

this person popped in your mind? Years.

7:55

Years. And show, count

7:57

the number of letters in her first name just yourself.

7:59

No, don't use your fingers. Jason, I can see your

8:01

fingers. Okay, you're yelling

8:03

at me. I'm

8:05

fucking nervous that you're gonna guess it and I'm

8:08

gonna be all freaked out. This

8:10

is coming out at your time, Howard. Five

8:13

letters, was it five letters? Yes. I

8:15

watched your eyes. Okay. He has

8:17

not thought of this person in years. This

8:20

is not set up, because if it was,

8:22

it'd be going better. Tell

8:26

us all, for everybody listening, I have written down, everybody in

8:28

the room, don't say the name, but if you can see

8:30

what I wrote down, clear as day, everybody in the room,

8:32

say, yeah. Yeah. Close your eyes for me, Jason,

8:34

close your eyes. But if you get this, like, you're

8:36

gonna be in my life the rest of my

8:39

life. That's, that is what I do. I'm never

8:41

gonna let you go. Like a splinter that doesn't

8:43

leave. Wow, clearly you let her go, but go

8:45

ahead. You haven't thought of

8:47

her in years. I wrote it down, everybody in the room has

8:49

seen it. How old were you at the time, Jason? Ooh,

8:52

14. And tell us, what

8:54

was this young lady's name? Paula.

8:57

I wrote down, Paula, 14. For

9:03

those who can't see Jason's face, he is in

9:05

shock. Yeah, like, why

9:08

aren't you a trillionaire on Wall Street?

9:11

It's my former job. Will, Will,

9:13

you thought of something. You're wasting this

9:15

at Steven's Talk House. I'm monetizing. We're

9:17

the Hamptons, Jason, trust me, I'm monetizing.

9:20

Will, Will, you're back in time.

9:23

You're thinking of somebody, Jason's shook up, by the way. I

9:25

wish they could see his face and not just hear the

9:27

text of his voice. How are you not media? That's the

9:29

most surprised his face gets, by the way. Yes. You

9:32

know, what do you think your face

9:35

is doing right now? Smiling? No. It's

9:39

very good that you smile. Sean, how about this? All right.

9:42

You read his mind. You were so confident

9:44

with Jason, and then you had no idea. He just sees

9:46

cookies. Is there any way in the world, Will, that Sean

9:48

knows who popped in your head when I asked you to

9:50

think of somebody from your past? No. Okay,

9:53

take a pad of paper. Sean,

9:57

here's the game plan. Okay, I'm so scared. I need you

9:59

to act. Good luck. Sean,

10:02

look at my hands. And can you tell everybody listening in,

10:04

I'm going to pretend in a moment I have a crystal

10:06

ball in my hand. Do I actually have anything in my

10:09

hands? Zero, nothing. No.

10:13

Sean will swear up and down that he saw a crystal

10:15

ball appear in my hands, and in it,

10:17

the name of your friend as a kid,

10:19

or whoever this person is. Have you

10:21

written down a name? I have. Can anybody see

10:23

it right now other than you? I don't think so.

10:26

Sean, look into

10:28

Will's soul. And

10:30

tell him, what name

10:32

did you see in that crystal ball? Tell

10:34

him, what, before I walked in here, we

10:36

spoke in a word in our life, Sean. Never. Tell him,

10:39

who's he thinking of? Say it. Scott.

10:41

You fucking what? Turn around, show

10:43

the audience. Fucking what? I

10:46

can't hear you in this room, are you seeing the same

10:49

show? How is that

10:51

possible? How is that possible? Holy shit, that

10:53

is unbelievable. Thank you

10:55

very much for having me, guys. Huge fan, huge fan. Incredible.

11:05

So, guys, how do you introduce a man who needs no

11:07

introduction because he's one of the most famous people on the

11:09

planet, plus he's on the poster outside. He's

11:11

the king of all media, the interviewer

11:14

of all interviewers, the winner of

11:16

Best Hair in America, four

11:19

years in a row. He's a

11:21

great artist, a great painter. More

11:24

sincere. Yeah, no, I lost my thing. And

11:27

he is incredible. He's

11:29

the most amazing person. And

11:31

now his home for 20 years has been

11:33

Sirius XM, which is now ours, which makes

11:35

us roomies. It's the most

11:37

incredible icon of all time, Howard

11:39

Stern. Ever. Oh,

11:54

man. You know, we

11:56

do all my years in radio. Yes. works

12:00

better on radio than magic. Yeah,

12:02

sure. Yeah. You guys are

12:04

on to something. It's a great note. I

12:08

told you, Arne, that not a good idea. I don't

12:10

want to come off like an expert. You know, I've

12:12

only been doing this for like 50 years.

12:14

But you've also made Howard the second

12:17

guest. I remember. When's

12:19

the last time you weren't the lead

12:21

guest? I know, and I remember having

12:23

Amazing Kreskin on. And the

12:25

audience was amazed as I described everything that

12:27

was going on in the room. The

12:30

play by play was unbelievable. Yeah.

12:33

He made a table lift. And I go, if

12:36

you were here now, you'd see a table lifting

12:38

off the ground. And people are like, no wonder

12:40

this is such a great radio. First

12:44

of all, welcome to SiriusXM, the

12:46

glorious world of SiriusXM. I'm

12:49

a huge fan of the company. So welcome.

12:53

I don't even know how long I've been

12:55

with SiriusXM. Since it started, you started it.

12:58

When I started, we had 200,000 subscribers. And

13:02

I remember walking around in, I don't

13:04

even know where I was, somewhere in

13:06

Manhattan, handing out radios for free, hoping

13:09

that someone would take one. And

13:12

it was a harrowing experience leaving terrestrial radio

13:14

and coming to Sirius. But it was best

13:16

decision I ever made. Of course. You weren't

13:18

allowed to talk about it too, right? At

13:21

the very end there when you were on terrestrial radio,

13:23

I remember that. Yeah, it was a very strange time

13:25

in my career. I was on regular radio. And

13:28

I somehow convinced them that it would be

13:30

OK if I talked about the fact that

13:32

I was leaving regular radio and going to

13:34

satellite radio. And then they told me,

13:36

OK. They said, don't mention Sirius

13:38

Radio. Just call it something else. And we

13:40

called it, uh, uh, uh, uh,

13:43

uh. And uh. What

13:46

you did for it though, because we had all

13:48

sort of heard that satellite radio was coming. And

13:50

I was a little circumspect. And I said, which

13:53

one are you? You're Jason, right? I'm Jason. That's

13:55

Jason. And I was like, well, I don't know

13:57

if I want. I said, I got to get

13:59

a different radio. When you

14:01

went to satellite, it was like, oh,

14:03

it's okay now. It was like when

14:05

Fincher went to Netflix, it was like,

14:07

oh. You do forget because things move

14:09

rather rapidly, but it was a very

14:11

strange time because there was an effort

14:13

by regular radio to say what a

14:15

failure I would be. And

14:18

they were putting out that anyone who went to

14:20

satellite radio, your career would be over, you would

14:22

disappear forever. So

14:24

there was this big campaign to discredit

14:26

satellite radio. But

14:30

I knew deep in my heart that satellite

14:32

radio would be successful. And now I look

14:34

around, everybody's got a fucking microphone in their

14:37

house. Everybody's on the radio.

14:39

You three. You

14:41

want to hear the most aggravating thing. But

14:44

Howard, I do love you guys. But couple

14:47

things. Jason and I,

14:50

the only person I didn't know was Sean. Right,

14:52

it's nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. And

14:54

I do want to ask you about your classical piano.

14:56

All right, and I want to ask you about your

14:58

guitar. I'm most impressed with your classical

15:01

piano. You guys will get some time after the

15:03

interview. But

15:07

here's the thing I want to tell you that annoy. Can I tell

15:09

you this? Yeah. So Jason was

15:11

over my house and I have mad respect for Jason.

15:13

I think he's a fabulous actor. Incredible, one of the

15:15

best. Wonderful guy, he's overcome a million at a great

15:18

time for you to call me Justin. You hear the

15:20

problems. Oh, he's had a lot of problems. A lot

15:22

of fucking problems. And he still has a bunch. Yeah,

15:24

he's got a lot of problems. Look at him. We

15:26

could go on all day. But you know I'm talking

15:28

to Jason and I'm feeling very good about my own

15:30

career and everything. And Jason goes, you

15:32

know, man, it's crazy. We

15:35

like started this thing out of our basement,

15:37

like a radio show. And I'm like, oh,

15:39

here we go. Cool.

15:42

And he goes, yeah, we started a thing and

15:44

like it was just the three of us sitting

15:46

around and we talk and we just crack each

15:49

other up and everything. I don't know what's going

15:51

to happen with it, man. But it's through telling

15:53

me it's like the biggest thing ever. Oh shit,

15:55

I didn't say that. Oh yeah. No way. Oh

15:57

yeah, you did. So I go, I'm listening.

15:59

This is great. Again, I spent

16:01

my life begging people

16:04

to put me on the radio. It was rarefied

16:06

air if you even were allowed on the...how to

16:08

work on your voice this and that, how to

16:10

work on the content, how to make sure you

16:12

get people...he's clowning around. So listen, it's

16:14

over. What can I say? I know, but you talk about

16:17

perfecting your craft. You hide your bitterness really well. Oh, I'm

16:19

so bitter. So bitter. You

16:21

talk about perfecting your craft. So how did

16:24

you first meet the whack pack? Oh,

16:26

that's an excellent question. It is. I

16:29

want to know because you did. You

16:31

found the craziest group of people available

16:34

and put them together. How did that come together,

16:36

the whack pack? Listen, when I was on the

16:38

radio and it

16:41

was brutal, in

16:43

order to get an audience and

16:46

maintain an audience, every 15 minutes they

16:48

take the ratings in radio. It

16:51

isn't like this, where you go, you know what?

16:53

We have a lot of people listening. It could

16:55

be three people listening to this. Nobody knows, nobody

16:57

cares. But you're on the radio

16:59

and every 15 minutes they take ratings. And

17:02

what are you going to do to hold people's

17:04

attention? But you found all these people like this,

17:06

like kind of... But look,

17:09

I found people that I was interested in. I'll

17:12

never forget the day. I was

17:14

on the radio and I took a little bathroom break

17:16

and I walked by my green room. The

17:19

lights went up. I'm looking at the

17:21

room and there he is, Beetlejuice.

17:27

Beetlejuice. You

17:30

know my show? Jason, you ever hear of my show? In

17:34

high school I listened to it a lot.

17:36

There was a guy named Beetlejuice who is

17:38

very popular even to this day on the

17:41

internet. It's insanely popular. Right, right. So, you

17:44

know, I said this guy is a star. He's going to

17:46

be fantastic. He's quiet so they don't hear it. Shh, shh,

17:48

shh. This guy is going to be a star. This guy

17:50

is going to be a star. And sure enough he was.

17:52

No, I mean I was always looking for interesting people to

17:54

interview. I have a question about that. Early on, where did

17:59

you get the ball? to not give

18:01

a shit about the consequences of

18:03

what you were saying and what you were doing

18:06

on air. Where do you get that from? Because

18:08

do you think you would have that now if

18:10

you start your career now with the same personality

18:12

since we live in cancel culture? Go

18:15

ahead. I believe I was

18:17

technically insane. That's sad. I

18:20

mean, I don't, I can't even. Like self-sabotage,

18:22

like you had like this level of indifference.

18:24

No, not self-sabotage. Well, here's the truth. In

18:27

my family, words meant nothing. My

18:30

mother would say actions only mean anything. And

18:32

I guess I took her literally. Howard,

18:34

what would you consider would be the

18:36

sort of the turning point in your career where

18:38

you kind of broke through because again, you started,

18:40

you had all these, you sort of,

18:43

you keyed into this kind of thing, you

18:46

know, with odd characters on your show. But what was

18:48

the turning point where you felt like you broke through

18:50

to a bigger audience? I had

18:52

a miserable failure in Detroit. I

18:55

got hired to be the morning man at WWWW

18:58

in Detroit, which are the

19:00

worst call letters for

19:04

a radio station. I get on there

19:06

and go, WWWW, Detroit, I

19:09

don't know what I'm doing. So

19:12

I was hired to be the morning man. I

19:15

had had some success in Hartford, not a huge

19:17

success, but success. And I got

19:19

hired in Detroit and there was a radio

19:21

consultant who said to me, do not go

19:23

to Detroit. There are four rock stations and

19:26

out of the four, the one that he wanted to hire

19:29

you at, dead last. Nobody even, I would go to parties

19:31

and people would say, what do you do for a living?

19:33

I'd say, oh, I'm the morning guy in W4. They go,

19:35

oh, is that station still on the air? Nobody

19:37

listened to this thing. W4 was a short version of

19:39

WWWW. W4, Detroit's W4, the

19:42

worst station. So yeah, I went on the

19:44

radio in Detroit. It was a tremendous failure

19:46

and I said, what am I doing wrong?

19:49

And I sat with it and I thought, I've

19:51

got to really just,

19:55

I guess, lose all inhibition and

19:58

admit to everything and just see where. that goes.

20:00

And when I went to Washington DC, it was

20:02

like it was not going great and he was

20:04

like might as well throw it all against the

20:06

wall. But I have to give the credit to

20:09

also Robin Quivers. I met her in Washington and

20:11

she was phenomenal. The

20:13

chemistry was great and a

20:15

program director put us together and I went

20:17

on the air with her and I started

20:19

to become very confessional and

20:21

people respond. We shot up to number one in

20:23

a record amount of time. Because it was real

20:26

and honest. And so that was the moment when

20:28

you started getting really real about your own life

20:30

that started to change it. And did

20:32

you notice being real about your life because

20:34

so much, you know anybody who's listening to

20:36

the show knows that you talk about what's

20:38

going on in your life. What you did

20:40

on the weekend, new haircut, new

20:43

clothes. Wait a second. I was masturbating at least

20:45

three times a day and talking about it. I

20:47

was trying to like, my kids are here so.

20:49

Oh sorry. And I'm not sure there's been a

20:51

new haircut. How many do you have exactly? I

20:53

mean we're looking into it but the

20:56

point is... We gotta find out. The point

20:58

is, you talked about so much about your

21:00

personal life. Was

21:06

there a point where talking about your

21:08

personal life hurt your relationship? I don't

21:10

mean necessarily even romantic. I mean hurt

21:13

relationships because people were nervous about talking

21:16

to you at a party

21:18

or I know you didn't. Well it hurt

21:20

everything. It hurt my, but

21:22

I didn't care. All I cared about was

21:24

my job, keeping that job and

21:26

getting audience and ratings. And that is a disaster for your

21:29

personal life. But you wait for something on the street and

21:31

go like, hey and they're like fuck man I don't want

21:33

to say hi to them because it's gonna end

21:36

up on the show tomorrow. Yes, I mean people, not only

21:38

that, I went through a very strange period of time. I

21:40

don't want to get all heavy about this because everyone knows

21:42

this show is not heavy. No,

21:45

no. But I don't want to get heavy.

21:47

We're gonna make you cry before you're out

21:49

of here. Okay, well I'll do that. What

21:51

it was is that I was very insecure

21:53

about my career. I wanted this thing to

21:55

take off in the worst way. And

21:58

so I even had a I

22:00

had a policy about, I stayed in

22:02

my home after I did my show, I never

22:04

went out, I was insane. So

22:07

I didn't want to meet anyone in show business because

22:11

I was talking on the air about a lot

22:13

of people and I didn't want, so I just

22:15

stayed in my house, I planned the radio show,

22:17

did it and went home. And

22:20

the stuff I was doing was so outrageous and

22:23

so entertaining to the audience that it blew

22:25

up. I mean, in New York we had

22:27

25 million listeners and

22:30

one out of every four cars on the Long Island Express so

22:32

he was listening to me. And it was pretty phenomenal. But

22:35

you have no, you have no, I had no

22:37

life. Don't applaud, I

22:39

had no life. But Howard, but Howard.

22:42

Where's Bradley Cooper, he's so good looking. But Howard, that

22:44

shifted. If I looked like that, I

22:46

wouldn't have to go on the radio and say shit. And

22:51

we will be right back. So

22:55

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22:57

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now back to the show. Howard,

25:32

that shifted though, because, and it was about, I'm

25:34

going to say almost 10 years ago, maybe a

25:36

little bit more, where you started hanging out with

25:38

a lot of people and your life changed. You

25:41

heard, and you became kind of one of the

25:43

people that used to talk in a certain way,

25:45

right? Not one of the people, but you became

25:47

friends with a lot of people and you allowed

25:50

celebrities into your life. You became friends with people

25:52

like Jason Bateman from TV and film, and we

25:54

all love. My dream was to

25:56

be friends with Jason Bateman. Sure. There's only one way

25:58

I'm going to get this guy. It's our

26:00

dream too. It

26:02

shifted. I remember

26:04

back in the years ago, remember you used to

26:06

call Chevy Chase's house all the time. She

26:09

used to drive him crazy. I

26:11

told you I was insane. I know. But

26:14

then it changes because you have to meet

26:16

those people right out in

26:18

the world. Chevy ended up coming to my

26:20

wedding, which is even more important. Yes, and

26:22

got up to make a beautiful speech to

26:25

myself and my bride. And then

26:27

stated to the audience that I had given him herpes.

26:29

Wow. Which

26:33

was really weird. But I

26:35

loved it. But your audience is bigger today

26:37

than it's ever been. And you're not doing

26:39

all of those sort of shocking things. You're

26:42

doing measured, deep conversations, long form interviews with

26:48

very sophisticated people. Well,

26:51

because I think any good performer, and

26:53

you guys are great performers and you know this,

26:56

you must evolve. The

26:58

show, you know, I used to say this. Now,

27:00

Rush Limbaugh, forget the politics. You

27:04

know, he had a very big following. But

27:06

it was the same thing every day. You could

27:08

predict what he was going to say. Some people

27:10

like that because it's like comfort and whatever. It

27:12

comforted them. But for

27:14

me, as a performer, I

27:17

felt I want the show to be funny. I also

27:19

want to be able to interview people. I want

27:22

it to be broader. And I made a

27:24

conscious decision to shift the show and

27:26

change it around. And to

27:28

me, it was way more exciting because the common

27:30

thought was, well, Howard will go to satellite and

27:32

now the show is going to be so fucking

27:34

filthy and everyone's going to be out

27:36

of their mind and the strippers are going to be able

27:39

to fuck on the air. Did you miss those constraints? No,

27:41

no. The

27:43

constraints, by having the constraints off, I said, well,

27:45

then it's no longer funny. Exactly. And

27:48

the radio was funny. The government was trying to shut

27:50

me down. That was drama. And

27:54

that's fun. That's tension, right? But then I got to

27:56

satellite. The tension wasn't there. So what do you do

27:58

now that you have the ultimate freedom? to shift the

28:00

show and I ultimately am more interested in the show

28:02

now than I've ever been. I

28:05

would say that it would, in a compliment to you, that

28:07

it was less deliberate or contrived or

28:09

strategic for you to, oh, let's switch

28:11

it up now and give the audience

28:13

something they're not going to expect. I

28:16

think it, and I haven't known you for,

28:19

you know, a thousand years,

28:21

but it does

28:23

seem pretty obvious that you

28:25

have naturally just evolved into

28:27

a more curious, serious,

28:29

not as a pejorative person who's interested in

28:31

different kinds of questions and with different kinds

28:34

of people. Let's make it simpler. You know,

28:36

it wasn't like a ratings ploy. It would

28:38

be really creepy to be my age and

28:41

still doing a show the way I did

28:43

it when I was 30. When I was 30

28:45

I was talking about it. But you weren't doing it as a ratings ploy.

28:47

You were being sincere and genuine and you thought all... You thought I was

28:49

funny. And I always

28:51

had this idea that we could be really

28:53

funny on the radio. That radio didn't have

28:55

to be a bastardized medium. No, but I

28:57

mean now. Now. It

28:59

was not a ratings point. And now it could

29:01

still be funny. You are, hands down, the best

29:04

interviewer in all of media. Thank you. It's true.

29:06

Without a doubt. Take the compliment, Howard.

29:08

I'm taking the compliment. No matter what.

29:11

My psychiatrist said you should be able

29:13

to take a compliment. Yeah, yeah. And

29:15

this is what I'm doing. Like, not... It

29:18

doesn't matter whether it's comics or athletes or musicians

29:20

or actors or whatever it is. You

29:24

question them for us. I love that aspect

29:26

of it. As us. And it's

29:28

a layman's point of view and it's very

29:30

curious and you're listening. You don't have a

29:32

bunch of fucking cards with questions on it.

29:35

You're engaged in a conversation. And it was

29:37

a true inspiration for us. It really was.

29:39

Sean is holding up all his cards. By the way, let's let

29:41

Sean get a question. He wrote a thousand. Come on, Sean. I

29:44

have pages of them because I don't know... Sean and

29:46

I don't really know each other. That's why I wrote

29:49

all this stuff down and my research of you, because

29:51

I am a big fan, I found all these things

29:53

that we actually do have in common growing up. Issues

29:56

with our dad. You don't like Italy, which

29:58

you just went with Jimmy Kimmel. I didn't want to go... either.

30:01

We're gonna get I want to get bullied with

30:03

you. Wait, wait, wait, wait, bullying like as a

30:05

kid, I was bullied too enough for

30:07

being Jewish, but for being gay. And so I was

30:10

oddly, I was bullied for being gay and I

30:12

wasn't crazy. I got bullied

30:16

for everything. Well, I'm not gay. We're

30:18

sorry to see you leave. Leave that

30:21

side. You seem very gay. But the

30:23

thing that I thought was fascinating. My mom

30:25

had a glass eye. Your dad had a

30:27

glass eye and neither one of us neither

30:30

one of us was allowed to talk about it.

30:32

Can I ask you a question? Can you wait

30:34

one second? Is your mom still alive? Is your

30:36

mom still alive? No, she's dead. Okay. My

30:39

father died two years ago. I know. I'm sorry to

30:41

that. I want to ask you a question. What would

30:43

you want? This is a what would you do? Forget these

30:45

other two guys. I'm asking you because you had a

30:47

mother with a glass eye. Yeah. So my father had

30:49

this glass eye and I could go into that for

30:51

three hours. I could do it. Right. Same. There's so many

30:53

things. It's so **** heavy. It's so great. But it's also

30:55

it's also funny. But when he died, I was

30:58

given a box of his stuff. I guess. What do

31:00

you mean? Oh, well,

31:04

yeah. I told you you shouldn't have an

31:06

audience at this guy. The way this I

31:08

open up the box. Yeah, of course. It's

31:10

my father's glass. Wait a minute. The same

31:12

thing. Who? When my when my mom

31:14

died, my sister passed it around and repackaged it.

31:16

Here's each one of us. We open all we

31:19

got something from my sister's. My mom's **** eye

31:21

comes to question. Here comes the question. Yeah. So

31:23

I go to my wife. I said, I

31:26

got this eye. The great Beth. Beth. My

31:28

beautiful Beth. Beth Stern. Where is she? Honey.

31:30

Where's Beth? Oh, there she is. Oh, I

31:33

love you. Hi, Beth. Nice to meet you.

31:35

I've heard such great things. So

31:37

anyway, here's the thing. So I turn to

31:39

my wife and I say to my wife.

31:42

Yeah. What? You know,

31:44

I don't know. I go and I open

31:46

it up and my father's eye was such

31:48

a taboo subject. My father never talked to

31:50

me about anything. That's right. And I went

31:53

one time I asked my mother, does dad

31:55

have a glass? And she said, listen to

31:57

me. You. That's

32:01

your father's story. Don't ask me.

32:04

And I'm like, what the fuck? I

32:06

was a kid. How old? Okay, here's the deal.

32:08

How old were you when you still didn't know

32:11

whether your dad's eye was glass? No,

32:13

they wouldn't talk. And did it blink

32:15

shut? Did it blink shut or did it stay open?

32:17

Did it blink shut or stay open? It stayed mostly

32:19

open and also things would form up. You needed to

32:21

confirm? My mom. Yes. There

32:24

were kind of shades, sort of like tinted glasses or something.

32:26

It wasn't a confirmation of the glass. I wanted to know

32:29

what happened with my father. But I

32:31

wasn't allowed to add. My father would blow up.

32:33

Everyone was afraid to get really angry. I could

32:35

throw that eye at you. Could. Yeah.

32:38

But here's my question. So

32:42

now I have the eye. And I said to my

32:44

wife, I need to find out how to, I can't

32:46

just take my father's eye and throw it in the

32:48

garbage. Like there might be laws against that. I don't

32:50

know. Are there? I don't know. So when you want

32:52

to save it as a keepsake? No. No,

32:54

no, no. Beth, where is it? It's a cat toy now.

32:58

She's got it in a locket around her neck. She brought it here

33:00

for you guys. No, it's a,

33:02

so she says to me, throw it in

33:05

the ocean. What? I go, I'm

33:07

just gonna throw my, I'm not gonna, I said your dad's

33:09

never seen the ocean. He

33:12

loved the ocean. So

33:14

what did you do with the eye is my question. What did you

33:16

do? Well, I got it sitting in

33:18

a box. Yeah, of course you do. You said a

33:20

whole thing, you're just tossing in the fucking ocean. No,

33:23

you're not. No, my mom. You brought yours on stage.

33:25

My mom. So it was same.

33:28

We weren't allowed to ask about it. Irish Catholic,

33:30

same as Jewish. You just don't talk, you stuff

33:32

it all down. There's our headline. Irish Catholic, same

33:34

as Jewish. That's the

33:36

title of this episode. And so my mom.

33:39

There are a few difference between Irish and Jewish.

33:41

Just a couple. But not gays and Jews. Right.

33:44

But so my mom, we

33:46

weren't allowed to. So my whole life I was like, I'd

33:49

be at the store and this checkout girl at the counter

33:51

would be like, staring at my mom's eye, I'm like, mom,

33:53

they're staring at your eye. Just shut

33:55

up, right? So then 10 years old, 20

33:57

years old, 30 years old, 35 years

33:59

old. Finally, I'm like, Mom, what

34:01

happened to your eye? And she still

34:04

didn't want to talk about it. I found out after she died,

34:06

she had cancer in the eye. They took it out, two years

34:08

old. And then as she grew older,

34:10

this gets really gross and funny, as

34:12

she gets older, she gets, my

34:15

sister and I read the medical reports.

34:17

They took skin from her vagina to

34:19

reshape her eye as she grew older.

34:22

And then my oldest brother goes, I knew when I got upset with her,

34:24

I wanted to fuck her in the eye. And

34:28

I said, this show

34:30

has to be canceled. I

34:37

made a terrible joke about that one a

34:40

long time ago, but I'm not going to repeat it here. By

34:43

the way, we're all talking about being honest. That's

34:45

an honest story. That's true story. And that's

34:47

us making jokes about painful things. So

34:50

her complaint after that, she thought that everybody looked

34:52

like a cunt. Isn't that what she said? When

34:57

I was a little kid, I was five years old. There

35:01

was a kid on my block, five year

35:03

old kid, said to

35:05

me, he came up to me, he said, my parents

35:07

told me your father has a glass eye. I was

35:09

so freaked out. We got into a fist fight. It's

35:11

probably the only fight I ever won. I beat him

35:13

up. It

35:16

was crazy. But I could never ask.

35:18

My father wasn't approachable like that. That's

35:21

why it was so much mystery. Did you ever get the story?

35:25

Yes, I did. It was a crazy story. What

35:28

happened was I was so curious about the eye and

35:30

everything, about my father, because I didn't know him. I

35:33

would sneak into his room and they would leave the

35:35

house, which was infrequent. Nobody ever left my house. And

35:38

you would, you know, so... No one could

35:40

figure out the block. My father

35:42

kept his eye with his porno. So the

35:44

eye... Wait, what? My father had porno,

35:46

you know, like he had some erotic books and things.

35:48

Sure. If you met my mother,

35:51

she's not exactly putting up. My mother, my

35:53

mother once said to me, you

35:55

know, I prefer to be celibate,

35:57

but your father has need. I

36:01

go, really? That's gross. Oh,

36:03

but fucking somebody in the aisle then. Go ahead. Those

36:06

books, no movies, no tapes. It was books

36:08

back then, and the books were wacky, but

36:10

the eye was staring at me. I wanted

36:12

to read the erotic books. So

36:14

I was all freaked out about it, the eye. But

36:17

then finally... She plops it out to go to sleep. I

36:19

don't know what went on, but in all

36:22

seriousness, I finally talked to my mother about

36:24

it. She wouldn't tell me, but I

36:26

broke her down, and it

36:29

was a terrible accident when my father was young. He

36:31

put some film in a bottle,

36:34

and the bottle exploded. He lit it,

36:37

and it exploded in his eye when he was a little kid. And

36:39

my father had a fabulous attitude about his eye in the sense that

36:43

I didn't see any evidence

36:45

that he saw himself as handicapped. He did his

36:47

thing. Was he just proud? Was that the

36:49

thing he just didn't want to...? I think it was a big

36:51

pain for him in his life. A

36:54

seriously big pain. It

36:57

was a big issue. My mom

36:59

would sleep... Her eye was constantly open, so

37:01

when she slept, she'd be like... Like

37:04

this. And I approached

37:06

the bed, and I'd be like, Mom?

37:08

Oh, she's sleeping. No, she's not sleeping. I

37:11

didn't know whether. I'm like, can I get

37:14

a glass of water? Oh, you're sleeping.

37:17

It was

37:19

crazy. And

37:21

then we would... Where is the eye now? My

37:24

sister has it. In a box. Is it

37:26

like a timeshare? No,

37:28

but do you get it? If you want it for the

37:30

holidays... Yeah, sure, I

37:32

could do it. She could pass it around. One

37:35

really quick question. I've said this on the show before. But we

37:37

used to take... My mom used to go bowling on Thursday nights,

37:40

and we used to go upstairs... We'd invite friends

37:42

over, and we'd have a chain on the door,

37:45

and we'd go upstairs and get her extra eye shed,

37:47

too. And in the box, and we'd get it, and

37:49

they'd knock on the door, knock, knock, knock, and we'd

37:51

open it just as much as the chain would go,

37:53

and we'd stick the eye out and go, who's there? With

37:55

the eye? Anyway...

38:00

I wouldn't have res that in my house. That's

38:02

fun. Yeah, it is fun. It's fun, but dangerous

38:04

with you know If you knew my dad tell

38:06

me about Italy and Jimmy Kimmel. Did you like

38:09

Italy? I know you didn't want to go I'll

38:11

give you an exclusive. Yeah, it was and this

38:13

is the most boring answer ever It was actually

38:15

a bad question because I loved it. I don't

38:17

have anything to think you were gonna love it

38:19

I don't like to travel. I'm perfectly happy sitting

38:22

at home. And if I want to see Italy,

38:24

I'll go on the internet Yeah

38:28

But you know I went to Paris once and

38:30

I was like the Eiffel Tower and I saw

38:32

it I'm like got it ready to go home.

38:34

Yeah, that looks like the movies and the postcards

38:36

got it looks the same. Yeah Yeah, we we

38:38

we had a great time somehow convinced you and

38:40

Beth that this is gonna be great I

38:43

had said, you know My wife wanted to travel

38:45

and I and I wanted you know, I

38:47

wanted to be a human being for my I mean I can't I

38:49

can't be in a marriage if my wife wants to travel I can't

38:51

say well go ahead once a year You

38:54

go and we ended up having a

38:56

very romantic time honey, right romantic romance

38:58

was in the air Romance

39:01

happened and and barely confirming that let

39:03

me know For

39:06

a woman imagine, you know, think about it

39:08

was a nod. I imagine, you know, imagine

39:10

me crawling on top of you in Florence

39:12

I mean Okay, it's

39:15

like a praying mantis attacking you All

39:19

right, so I felt for the woman I did I

39:21

did but she's a good sports. It took her like a champ Horrible

39:28

I felt hard, but honey, it wasn't so bad

39:30

right it was over quick. You're the king of the

39:32

insects Like

39:36

the flag brindle fly, you know Howard

39:39

do you have any is there any one interview

39:41

you have that you regret is there anyone that

39:43

you're like, oh many many What's the one you

39:46

regret the most well because I was an asshole

39:49

Many time but you know when I was on regular

39:51

radio terrestrial radio, whatever you want to call it

39:54

I didn't have the faith that

39:57

if I did an interview that my audience would hold

40:00

We had something like a 10-share, number one in New

40:02

York, and I thought, well, if someone comes on the

40:04

air and they're talking, I could hear the radios clicking

40:06

off. That the only thing that might

40:08

be compelling is if, you know, I was doing my

40:10

thing. Which means I

40:12

was not trusting of other people, that other

40:14

people might have talent. So there

40:16

were people, and I've written about this, the

40:19

fabulous, most wonderful Robin Williams, for example,

40:21

came on my show. And

40:24

I just was ridiculously

40:28

insulting. And

40:30

why? Because I was trying

40:32

to be funny. Robin Williams is way funnier than

40:35

I am. Let him be funny. But

40:37

being the insecure child that I

40:40

was, and somehow having

40:42

some connection with an audience where I was

40:44

intuitive and thinking I could hear when they're

40:46

turning off the radios, if

40:49

somebody gave a long answer or wasn't

40:51

moving fast enough, the rhythm wasn't right.

40:53

I could hear the radios clicking off.

40:56

And so I really had no business having guests on.

40:59

It's funny, you're really honest about

41:01

that in your self-assessment of that

41:04

time in your life now that you're older. And is

41:06

that just a result

41:08

of getting older, or is this a result of

41:11

doing a lot of work? It's a result of

41:13

leaving terrestrial radio and going to satellite. It suddenly

41:15

dawned on me. I

41:17

work for a company now that has

41:19

100-something channels. As

41:22

long as the person who's paying for

41:24

a subscription is happy with the

41:26

product, and if they're listening to me,

41:28

and I'm doing a long-form interview, and if it's

41:30

not their cup of tea, they can go to

41:32

a different channel on our service. And

41:35

that freed me. That liberated me. Because

41:37

it wasn't about me necessarily holding the

41:40

audience. If you enjoy listening to Robin

41:42

Williams, great. Then we have you as

41:44

a listener. But if you don't, there's

41:46

a million other choices on satellite. But

41:49

you also find that your agenda is

41:51

no longer to provide a show for

41:53

your listener, but

41:59

instead perhaps... you hope that

42:01

the people remaining listening to you on that

42:03

particular day happen to be as interested in

42:05

the person you're talking to as you are.

42:07

In other words, you're not,

42:09

yeah, and it's a more honest, you're

42:12

not pushing, you're not pressing, you're just, you're. Yes, but

42:14

you couldn't have done that. If you guys started

42:16

your radio, let's say you started a career

42:18

in radio back in the day. This

42:22

format would not have lasted. It would

42:24

not be on the radio. It

42:27

doesn't hold an audience en masse.

42:31

Jimmy Fallon's sitting in our audience, right? When

42:33

he does an interview, he can't do an hour

42:35

interview. He's got to sit there because he's dealing

42:37

with televisions coming on and off and on and

42:39

off. We're in a unique position. The

42:42

period of time we're in right now has

42:44

allowed us to sit here and have a

42:46

real conversation and we can play to a

42:49

niche audience. And so, not

42:51

to get too academic about it, radio,

42:53

the old format of radio is gone. And

42:56

I recognized that when I came to satellite and

42:59

I felt that was the innovation, I could sit

43:01

and have a real conversation with someone like Robin

43:03

Williams. And I

43:06

have regrets, but yeah, the

43:08

format helped me

43:10

to evolve. Right. I have

43:13

an actual question for Jimmy. You know,

43:15

seriously, seriously, no, to that point. No

43:17

offense, but I think on the interview.

43:19

No, it's. You've been great. I

43:22

guess I just haven't delivered the goods. Jimmy, why

43:24

don't you take over? This always happens, always happens

43:26

to the guy. Why don't you get up and

43:28

do a fuel Gilbert God freedom questions? Go ahead,

43:30

pal. It has

43:33

everything to do with what you just said,

43:35

which is Johnny Carson used to have long,

43:37

long, long interviews, 20 minutes,

43:40

half hour. And so Jimmy, I

43:42

was thinking about you because you're one of the best at

43:44

what you do. Thank you for standing. Have

43:46

you ever had discussions about what Howard is saying

43:48

about instead of the six, seven minutes you do,

43:50

all right, you don't have a microphone. Uh oh,

43:53

he's coming up to the station. Here we go.

43:55

Listen, he's never gonna leave. You know that. Once

43:57

Jimmy got a mic for him now. I

44:00

love this. Come on, Jimmy.

44:03

God bless you, Jimmy. Can

44:05

I leave now? No,

44:07

you ever have the, the, the discussion

44:09

about changing your format to do kind

44:12

of where, where this feels like it's

44:14

going, which is long form interviews as

44:16

opposed to six, seven minutes. No, I

44:18

can't do it. I wish that I

44:21

could do a longer interview with, with

44:23

certain guests. But yeah, but

44:25

I do wish that I can get into it

44:27

and talk for an hour. I'm, I'm, I'm jealous

44:29

when I, you know, can, can listen to you when

44:32

you hear a real conversation. Yeah. I love it. Because

44:34

when it gets going, it's great. And even with it,

44:36

with an audience, like you said, like this

44:38

is, we're loving this, but here's the good

44:40

news. When I'm in the mood for what

44:42

you provide and what Kim will provide, what

44:44

Colbert provide, you guys do it better than

44:47

anyone. And it's focused. Why, why do I

44:49

do? But when I want, when I'm in

44:51

the mood for a long form thing, it's

44:53

like, there's no one better, you know? Thank

44:55

you. Thank you. How much, how much do

44:57

you, Jimmy? Thank you. Jimmy. One Gilbert God,

44:59

freedom pressure. For Christ's sake.

45:02

Thank you. My wife, my beautiful wife, Paula

45:05

is in the audience. She dated you when

45:07

you were 14. You haven't talked to her in a couple

45:09

of years. Give her a call. I love Jimmy

45:14

very much, by the way. I want to

45:16

tell you Jimmy, who doesn't love Jimmy Fallon.

45:18

I'll let you in on his secret.

45:21

And Nancy Jevonin. Oh, Nancy's the best.

45:24

Jimmy and I are going to go camping together on

45:26

a beach and we're, it's just going to be the

45:28

two of us alone. And Jimmy Wright, we're going to

45:30

be in a, what is that called? An RV? An

45:33

Airstream. Wow. Yeah. How much of your. He thinks

45:35

I'm going to go. How many of your guests,

45:37

because one of the other things that we get

45:39

to do is we get to choose, we

45:42

reach out to people that we're interested in talking

45:44

to. How much of that do you

45:46

do and how much of that comes in through? We, we,

45:50

we reach out to some people, but mostly, and

45:52

this is probably to our detriment, but I don't want

45:54

to have a lot of guests. We,

45:57

we just, we keep, we keep a

45:59

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46:01

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52:02

you weren't always this charismatic, you weren't

52:04

always this comfortable in talking. No, it

52:06

took me years. That's why I

52:08

resent this podcast. You guys are just not here talking.

52:11

I had to spend years. I had to

52:13

spend years. We've got four years. It took

52:16

me ten years just to get conversational. It

52:18

was very slow. You

52:20

guys are too talented. No, no, no. But

52:22

in all seriousness, playing records was horrible. Were

52:27

you a fan of music, though? Oh, a

52:29

huge fan of music. Music meant more to

52:31

me than religion. I never got a thing

52:33

out of religion, but man, when I'd hear

52:35

The Beatles or The Stones or George Harrison,

52:38

you know, my sweet lord, that

52:40

stuff, that spoke to me.

52:42

That moved me. And I was

52:44

happy to launch a lot of bands. I

52:47

was a program director for a while. I

52:49

didn't even understand. I didn't know anything.

52:53

A guy from a record company would call me up and

52:55

he'd go, would you play our record? I'd go, sure. He

52:57

goes, no, no, no. I'll play it for you. You don't

52:59

have to play it for me. I'll report it to Billboard.

53:02

I didn't care. Did you ever hit Starstruck

53:04

around musicians? I

53:06

admire musicians and I know how hard they work

53:08

at it. But is that the group that would,

53:10

if anyone was going to get you, starstruck? That

53:12

or athletes? Oh, yeah. Musicians. Who

53:14

would be, who's the one that you haven't met?

53:16

You'd be like, uh-oh, I can't talk. Oh,

53:19

geez. Is it a Beatle? I've met Paul.

53:21

I'm Ringo and they were great on the

53:23

show. You want to take a temperature

53:26

of the room about the name of the Beatles? Oh,

53:28

yeah. Do you guys know about this? Old

53:31

captain, brain. What happened?

53:34

But they can honest thing

53:36

of the audience. I didn't know my whole

53:38

life. I thought it was the insect of

53:40

the Beatles. I didn't know it was people

53:42

who make beats. The B-A-T. He was

53:45

like, clap if you were with me. Thank

53:49

you. Meanwhile, they did not know that till right now.

53:51

I didn't know what to suck the air out of

53:53

the room. I want to thank the

53:55

guys for that story. Have you seen? Have you noticed? Have

53:58

you noticed the arrow? in

54:00

the FedEx logo. Yeah. I

54:02

don't know what that means. All right, here's one

54:04

you didn't know, Sean. Sean, here's one I guarantee

54:06

you didn't know. Yeah. You

54:09

know the place you go for roast

54:11

beef, right? Arby's, right? Yeah. Why

54:13

is it called Arby's? They got the meat or

54:16

whatever they say. No, no. Think

54:18

about it. Why is it Arby's? Roast

54:20

beef. R-B, roast beef.

54:23

I didn't know that, but I put it together. Oh, Arby's. Oh,

54:26

I see. Did not know that. Look at Will. We

54:28

could do this all day long. You're going great. Hey.

54:30

Now wait. So speaking of really, really glad

54:33

I came on. By the way, these guys

54:35

treat it like it's a TV show. I'm

54:37

in a trailer. I'm waiting to come on.

54:40

There's a warm up back for the audience. I don't

54:42

know from this. You just go on the radio. First

54:44

of all, I don't think we've said it yet. I

54:47

can't thank you enough for doing

54:49

this. You don't do this. I've

54:51

seen you do it for Letterman. I've seen you do

54:53

it for Kimmel. You don't do this.

54:55

And I can't thank you enough. This is a really,

54:57

really. Happy

54:59

to be here. We really do.

55:01

And just so you're not just hearing from Jason, you are

55:04

the gold standard for us. And you're the guy that we

55:06

always wanted to get. We talk about you all the time.

55:09

Honestly, this is a big deal for us. I'm really

55:11

honored. And Will, much to your point, for many years,

55:13

I couldn't take a compliment. But I do appreciate you

55:15

guys. I got a new one for you. Everybody

55:17

knows you're recently 70. It's

55:20

unbelievable. It's so fucked up.

55:22

You have not changed. Oh,

55:25

god. Beth, back me up here. Like,

55:27

what are you guys doing? I

55:30

know you're not out there running 10 miles

55:32

on the beach every day. Is it just

55:34

jeans? I mean, you look exactly

55:36

the same. I look terrible. No, no, Howard. The only thing I will

55:38

say is that I will only say the one. You're not exactly the

55:41

same for the last 30 years? I can't even see a picture of

55:43

it. But I will tell you one thing. I

55:45

do not color my hair. No, I know. I can tell

55:48

you it. I don't. But this is

55:50

it. And I have a gray beard. He doesn't either.

55:52

You don't color your hair right now. But you don't

55:54

have. You're supposed to have like a belly.

55:56

I know I have a belly. I have a belly in 10.

55:58

You're supposed to. Everybody's got it. I

56:01

got a belly and tits right honey. You've

56:03

seen me with my shirt off. She's busy

56:05

by the way saying I go turps off

56:07

you want to go to go turps off

56:09

but you don't look like you ache or

56:11

you're sore I can't fuck yes no no

56:13

no you're not seem like you're in great

56:15

shape are you doing anything that well first

56:17

of all I don't know our painting let's

56:19

get into that I do well yeah

56:21

I do I paint I like to paint

56:23

it's incredible the painting here I don't know

56:25

if you guys does it people know okay

56:28

and the photography it's like and when the

56:30

tiny sketching with them with the magnifying glass

56:32

I like it I don't use a magnifying

56:34

no more no I never did I

56:36

never used a thing there was something yeah I have a

56:39

big magnify but I don't use it for that really

56:41

I'm just telling you I don't know I mean I'm not

56:43

fucking crazy you know you know who is there it was

56:46

there it was there but

56:48

yeah I enjoy those things how cool

56:50

when did you start playing guitar okay

56:54

so short version I'll tell you why I play

56:56

guitar and I'm gonna blame I'm gonna blame Jimmy

56:58

Fallon you're gonna jam with jelly roll tonight no

57:01

no no Jimmy

57:03

stand up there we go Jimmy Fallon

57:06

Jimmy Fallon says to me kidding me

57:08

here's what happened ten years ago I turned

57:11

60 and I said

57:13

I either want to play the guitar yeah or

57:16

I want to learn to paint

57:18

oh and you never draw I never drew I

57:20

never you know that in some

57:23

reason that I had I wanted to paint in the

57:25

worst way so that's all in ten I began to

57:27

yeah I began to study watercolor and I really focus

57:30

on it I mean and you know as a pianist

57:32

that you have to you have

57:34

to you just have to focus on it

57:36

it's not that people have some sort of

57:38

natural ability it's the work you have to

57:40

work at people go oh I don't have

57:43

focus on the penis his whole life yeah

57:45

and I'm an expert you two laughs for

57:47

that I thought that was pretty good it's

57:49

a tough we'll sweeten that me at it

57:51

it's okay to laugh but

57:54

you know I yeah anyway I enjoy

57:57

those but I applaud you wanting to

57:59

research and find other things, not

58:02

that you are older, like somebody is not

58:04

old, but that you pursue things that still

58:06

challenge you. When did somebody your age is

58:08

willing to do new things? Is what you're

58:10

saying. Well, it's true. And by the way,

58:12

that fucks my head up. Because when I

58:14

said to my wife, I

58:16

want to learn guitar, but I feel

58:18

foolish because of my age, like what am

58:20

I trying to do here? I don't want

58:23

to be a rock star. I just want

58:25

to understand music. Challenge yourself to a new

58:27

hobby. Because I love musicians and I love

58:29

what they do and I want to understand

58:31

that language. Let's do a duet sometime, piano

58:33

and guitar. Do you play minuet and G?

58:35

I do. All right, but we

58:37

can do it. Wait, are you playing classical

58:40

guitar? No, but I

58:42

don't play classical guitar. Yeah, it's a 12-string guitar,

58:44

man. No, no, no, no.

58:46

It hurts the fingers though, doesn't it? Well,

58:48

look at the tips of my fingers. Look at

58:50

those calluses. Oh my God. Yeah. So

58:53

how much are you playing today? Well, I'm

58:55

on vacation now. From guitar? No,

58:57

from work. I'm on vacation

59:00

from work. So I can play some

59:03

days five, six hours. Really? What?

59:06

So you must be good now. Who's

59:08

your favorite guitarist? Oh,

59:10

Jesus. Why don't you just name one of them,

59:12

a few of them. Well, I mean, you got

59:15

to say Hendrix, you got to say Jimmy Page.

59:17

I mean, Jimmy Page, now I have even more

59:19

appreciation for Jimmy Page. I was

59:21

playing one of the most beautiful

59:23

love songs, Thank You, by Zeppelin.

59:26

And the intro to that. And

59:29

you sit and you realize this

59:31

guy wrote this. Bam, ba-da-da-da-da-da. Yes,

59:34

excellent. Excellent. Thanks,

59:36

guys. Was that you singing or playing the

59:39

guitar? Keep that applause, though. But you realize

59:41

how brilliant it is. And in

59:43

order to get to that level, you've got to

59:45

play every day for hours and hours. And I'm

59:47

mad at myself because when I was younger, I

59:50

didn't allow myself to practice music, which Sean did

59:52

when he was smart about it. When

59:55

I was younger, I had so many, I don't

59:57

know why I reacted this way, but so many

59:59

adults. When they found out when I was like five,

1:00:01

six, seven, eight years old playing piano, practicing,

1:00:03

they'd go, oh, you know what? I wish I

1:00:06

would have stuck with it over and

1:00:08

over and over. All these adults telling me that. So

1:00:10

I was like, there must be something to that. So

1:00:12

that's what made me stick to it. Was

1:00:14

there something, was there a fork in the road

1:00:16

where had you stuck with that instead of radio,

1:00:18

you would have been that? No, radio. It had

1:00:20

to be radio for me. So it was never

1:00:22

like architecture or? I was five years old. I

1:00:24

announced, no, I announced to my family, I will

1:00:26

be on the radio, which was ridiculous. It

1:00:29

doesn't make any sense. I don't understand it.

1:00:31

And. But your dad was a sound engineer.

1:00:33

Yeah, well, he was a radio engineer. Radio

1:00:35

engineer? So that part of it made sense.

1:00:37

Yeah. Listen, my father didn't spend

1:00:39

a lot of time paying attention to me

1:00:41

or interacting with me. And I used to sit.

1:00:44

Mine did. Well, I would watch him. He

1:00:47

was focused on you. No, but

1:00:49

he would, when I

1:00:51

would see him commuting to work, and

1:00:53

he'd put the radio on him, Bob Grant

1:00:56

was on, who was this conservative broadcaster. But

1:00:58

the guy was mesmerizing on the radio. And

1:01:00

I saw the way my father listened and shushed me, told

1:01:03

me to shut the fuck up so he could hear Bob

1:01:05

Grant. Shut up. I said, so that's how you get. That's

1:01:07

how you get someone's attention. Sit down. Get on

1:01:09

the radio. So wait. You did it to get

1:01:11

your dad's attention. I think so, yeah. So. Did

1:01:13

you get it? Sorry, just to follow up on

1:01:16

that, if you don't mind. Jesus Christ. Sorry. Do

1:01:19

you think, what was the

1:01:21

moment where your dad, I mean, obviously

1:01:23

you had incredible success in

1:01:26

radio. Was there a moment where

1:01:28

he, like, was there an actual moment where he went,

1:01:30

holy shit, Howard? I think my mother put him up.

1:01:32

You know, he just went, he just said, oh, OK,

1:01:34

I love you. You know, he

1:01:36

was not, my father, my father grew up

1:01:39

in the Depression. He had

1:01:41

nothing. When I say nothing, it was

1:01:43

like literally no shoes. You

1:01:45

know, his father worked in a sweatshop as a

1:01:47

pants presser. My father was a very deprived guy.

1:01:50

And he didn't have a lot of room for emotion. I

1:01:52

think he probably had a lot of bottled up emotion. But

1:01:54

he couldn't express it. And he

1:01:57

didn't know how. He didn't have the facility. Which,

1:01:59

but I would. I would have loved to have

1:02:01

known my father. I would have loved to. Why

1:02:03

do you think you're so well-adjusted? I'm not. I'm

1:02:05

a mess. Beth? I'm still with a

1:02:07

psychiatrist. Beth wouldn't be with an idiot. No. Wouldn't

1:02:10

be with an asshole. I didn't say I was an idiot.

1:02:12

I said I'm fucked up. Honey, come up here and tell

1:02:14

people I'm fucked up. Please come up. Well, what do you

1:02:16

do? She says I'm a lot. Honey, please.

1:02:19

You don't want to come up. Do you think,

1:02:21

do you, well, but like, I

1:02:23

don't think that people know, like,

1:02:26

if there was one misconception of you, do you have

1:02:28

any idea what that might be? I

1:02:31

will say that for

1:02:33

me personally, given your

1:02:35

edge of humor, it was

1:02:38

really exciting to get to know you

1:02:40

a little bit and see how incredibly

1:02:42

soft and chewy you are on the

1:02:44

inside. How incredibly sincere and genuine and

1:02:46

attentive you are. But what

1:02:48

I said was, you know, it was

1:02:50

unfair. You used to go around saying, oh, well, that's

1:02:53

an act on the radio. Well, it was who I

1:02:55

was. I had a lot of anger. Obviously, but there's

1:02:57

a choice to like not be fucked up and just

1:02:59

know how to manage that. Yeah, but my attitude about

1:03:01

radio, and I say this over and over again, was

1:03:04

I just want to make people laugh. I want

1:03:06

people to have a great time in their car,

1:03:08

whether it's if it's a compelling interview, great. But

1:03:10

if I'm sitting there and I'm being really funny

1:03:12

and I'm doing something good, well,

1:03:15

you know, that's what I'm trying to

1:03:17

do. So I never did anything out

1:03:19

of malice. I did it because

1:03:21

I thought I was genuinely funny. Was

1:03:23

I genuinely funny? Sometimes, sometimes not. You were speaking

1:03:26

the truth. Your observations were spot on. I was

1:03:28

speaking my truth. Yeah, that's part part. But it

1:03:30

was sometimes painful for folks, and that was a

1:03:32

funny part. Part of that being honest, though, I

1:03:34

remember when you spoke about your health scare about

1:03:37

having a little spot on your kidney, thank God

1:03:39

it was nothing. And that was,

1:03:41

you revealed like that was one of the

1:03:43

first, one of the few things that you

1:03:45

did not share with your audience because you've

1:03:47

always been so open and honest with your

1:03:49

audience about everything. So what is, where is

1:03:51

that line and is there anything? I'll tell

1:03:53

you why. And you guys probably know this

1:03:55

from doing this now and having a popular

1:03:57

show. You know, if you

1:03:59

go on a, And you say listen I could

1:04:01

potentially I have this thing and they're telling me

1:04:03

it could be cancer and 95% chance You

1:04:07

start to get letters from every know-it-all in the

1:04:09

audience listen my mother died you you're fucked you

1:04:11

this you're that and I I'm

1:04:13

neurotic I am neurotic about my own. I don't want

1:04:15

to know where's Bradley Cooper. I just want to look

1:04:17

at him come on Look

1:04:22

at that son of a bitch So

1:04:25

good-looking It's gorgeous. I love

1:04:27

I love Bradley Cooper. I don't mind. We

1:04:29

all do no no there people Shawn doesn't

1:04:31

love Bradley

1:04:34

I love you another Bradley

1:04:36

Cooper story we love to hear a Bradley story

1:04:38

if it's positive one of the greatest moments for

1:04:40

me on the show But personally you could you

1:04:42

ask about people I interviewed I was interviewing Bradley

1:04:44

and at the time Bradley had

1:04:47

just finished a run on Broadway

1:04:52

Brilliant job, absolutely and I am a fan of

1:04:54

the alpha man And I said, you know and

1:04:56

and Bradley's so serious about the elephant man. He

1:04:58

has serious elephant man hang up He

1:05:00

goes, you know, I don't I just want you to

1:05:02

know I don't joke about the elephant man I said I'm

1:05:04

not gonna joke but I would like to do the

1:05:06

elephant man for you Oh no, and I would love

1:05:08

if you would come back as your

1:05:10

elephant man. Yeah, and so I said And

1:05:22

Bradley looked at me and I said he's either gonna walk out and he

1:05:24

goes And

1:05:29

we had a moment where we were both

1:05:31

the elephant I immersed in our character and

1:05:33

it was that's one of the biggest highlights

1:05:35

radio magic Magic that

1:05:37

you acted up you got to act

1:05:39

with Bradley Cooper very few people, you

1:05:41

know, very few This guy's one of

1:05:44

our best actors is rarefied air and

1:05:46

without a doubt One of the greatest

1:05:48

filmmakers we've got my throat was incredible.

1:05:50

That's right. And when he saw Tell

1:05:56

him Bradley how good I was he

1:05:59

loved it I saw such acting. I've

1:06:02

had no training, by the way, as an actor. What?

1:06:04

That's right. That's right. How many times did

1:06:06

you audition for Private Parts? Yeah, because I was going

1:06:08

to say, you want to know something about Private Parts,

1:06:10

he's the funny thing. So in

1:06:12

developing. What a movie, by the way. Thank you.

1:06:14

It's a great movie. I love it. Thank you.

1:06:16

It is. It's so good. But I got to

1:06:19

tell you a funny story about you, because this

1:06:21

leads into it. It's insane. So,

1:06:23

you know. Closer to the mic, please. So

1:06:26

I wrote the book. I

1:06:29

wrote the book, and I had no clue when they said

1:06:31

they want to make a movie out of it. How

1:06:34

am I going to make a movie out of this thing? Betty Thomas?

1:06:37

Before Betty, I

1:06:39

was involved in writing some of the scripts. We had other writers

1:06:42

and this and that. There were 25

1:06:44

full drafts of this thing. And each one was

1:06:46

worse than the next. And my agent

1:06:48

at the time just passed away. Don Buckle,

1:06:50

love you. He's great. But he said to me, these scripts are

1:06:52

so bad, you'll be laughed at. So

1:06:54

the movie studio said, listen.

1:06:57

Paramount? Reisher Entertainment

1:06:59

put up the money, and Paramount was

1:07:02

the distributor. And so

1:07:04

they said, listen. This is crazy. The

1:07:06

money that we're spending on these writers, and

1:07:08

you're not accepting any of these scripts, we're

1:07:12

going to hire Jeff Goldblum to

1:07:14

play you, since you won't do that. Is

1:07:16

that true? Is that great? Jeff Goldblum. I

1:07:19

looked him in the eye, and I said, you know what? I

1:07:21

would pay to see that. I

1:07:24

would love to see Jeff Goldblum as Howard Stern. I

1:07:26

think it would be terrific. At

1:07:29

this time, was there a plan for

1:07:31

you to play the part? And they wanted to actually

1:07:33

go another direction? They were so frustrated with me, because

1:07:35

I had written into the contract. And again, this was

1:07:37

my agent's brilliance. They couldn't make

1:07:39

the movie unless I had full script

1:07:41

approval. And I wrote half the scripts,

1:07:43

and they sucked. That'd be so great

1:07:45

to just shoot some scenes today with

1:07:47

Jeff Goldblum. Absolutely. From, right? And just

1:07:49

put it on the internet? That'd

1:07:52

be a lot of fun. You want to know one of the most thrilling

1:07:54

things in my career? Speaking of that. And

1:07:56

then we got to go. Oh, you got to go? No, after that.

1:07:58

You got to go. You have a hard day. You have a

1:08:00

hard out. You people are really tough about it. I have

1:08:02

a hard out. Yeah. No, I do.

1:08:04

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm

1:08:06

very busy. I have to go home and paint

1:08:08

and play the guitar. I'm busy. No,

1:08:11

I sit at home and stare at the wall and Beth looks

1:08:13

at me. She's

1:08:16

not allowed to leave the house, didn't she? Will

1:08:20

you go home tonight and just turn

1:08:22

on the TV and... Oh yeah, I've

1:08:24

got the advanced copy of next week's

1:08:26

Bachelorette. Oh! No way.

1:08:28

Do you watch Traders? Do you watch Traders?

1:08:31

I know. Bachelorette. I'm Bachelorette Nation all

1:08:33

the way. Anybody else with me? Yeah.

1:08:35

Look, Jimmy Fallon's with me. Bradley? Sure.

1:08:38

Well, these people have a life. I love it. Bradley,

1:08:41

you do not watch that. I love it. You do

1:08:43

not watch that. Bradley doesn't watch it. Bradley

1:08:45

watches Bachelorette. That's the secret he doesn't want anyone to

1:08:47

know. All right. Yeah,

1:08:49

he loves it. What time is it? What

1:08:51

time for you to go? Yeah,

1:08:54

we're... We've got to be over an hour. We're

1:08:56

done. We've taken it way too much. You're very kind of...

1:08:58

Yeah. You're very kind of... By

1:09:01

the way, let's get... Do you feel we were a success? Yes.

1:09:03

This is a great rehearsal, guys. Oh, my God. We're

1:09:06

going to record. Honestly. Everybody take

1:09:08

a nice break. We'll record in about 20 minutes. What

1:09:10

do you mean? Great rehearsal. What are you

1:09:12

recording? Tell me. This is a rehearsal.

1:09:14

Is the show actually over, do I leave, and then you keep talking?

1:09:16

We're going to do a wrap-up. We're

1:09:18

going to do a wrap-up. We're going to talk about you a little bit. A wrap-up?

1:09:22

Yeah. We're going to talk about how great you are once you

1:09:24

leave. Maybe I should listen in. I'll

1:09:26

say it here. I won't say a word. Go ahead.

1:09:29

Let me hear what you guys do. And I'll tell you

1:09:31

what I'll do. But here's the thing. Every once in a

1:09:33

while, every once in a while, interrupt and I'll just go,

1:09:35

that's not good radio or that's really good radio. That's what

1:09:37

I will do. Do you mind if we cut your mic?

1:09:40

Not at all. I was a judge

1:09:43

on America's Got Talent. I know. Fantastic.

1:09:45

The only reason I want to... By the way, the guy who did the warm-up today, they

1:09:47

had a warm-up. Oz. Yeah,

1:09:49

Oz. I wanted him to

1:09:52

win the entire season. He did not win

1:09:54

that season. He should have. He's amazing. He's

1:09:56

phenomenal. Oz Perlman. You know what you've

1:09:58

been... A name built for show business. Here's

1:10:00

what you can do while you're being quiet

1:10:03

and pretending that you're not here when we're doing that. No, I'm

1:10:05

not going to do it. If I have to be completely quiet,

1:10:07

I'm not doing it. All right, you can talk a little bit,

1:10:09

but I want you to think about... I

1:10:11

will do that on the protest. We might embarrass you if you stayed and

1:10:13

heard how much we were going to praise you. Can I say something about

1:10:15

you guys? Yeah. Okay. This

1:10:18

is going to hurt. It's got to be kind. Thank

1:10:20

you for having me. Thank you. I'm very

1:10:22

excited that you're part of the Sirius XM fans. We are, too. I

1:10:24

wish you a lot of success. Thank

1:10:27

you. Not too much success, but a lot of success. Sure.

1:10:30

And no, seriously, it's great to have you guys and

1:10:32

the family. Thank you for blessing us into it and

1:10:34

by doing this. Yes. I understand the

1:10:36

Sirius stock is going to go over $2.90. Now

1:10:38

that you guys are here, God bless. I can't

1:10:40

wait. All of that stock, I'm going to

1:10:42

be so wealthy. You guys,

1:10:44

please help us thank Howard Stern. Thank you.

1:10:47

Great Howard Stern. Thank you, everybody. I

1:10:49

can't get out of my chair. Howard

1:10:59

Stern, keep it going. Keep

1:11:01

it going. The

1:11:04

one and the only, the king of all media,

1:11:07

radio, podcast, television,

1:11:10

film. He

1:11:12

is the king of all media. They have to raise

1:11:14

the ceilings of the talk house just for him. All

1:11:17

right. That was surreal for me. I've never

1:11:19

met him. I know, you know, I didn't ever

1:11:21

get to talk to him. Was he what you thought he was

1:11:23

going to be? Yeah, I was really, really nervous. I was really

1:11:25

nervous. Was he what you thought he was going to be? Yes,

1:11:29

I thought that. How

1:11:31

is he different than you thought he was going to be?

1:11:33

I didn't know he was going to be so relaxed and

1:11:35

easy to talk to. Right. I thought

1:11:37

he was going to be like, so what do you guys got?

1:11:39

Let's see what you guys got. And he wasn't like that at

1:11:41

all. No. Because he's the king of all

1:11:43

of it. But he was also incredibly generous

1:11:45

and empathetic and probably knows that we're

1:11:48

nervous and that's right. We're

1:11:50

dumb. We have a new show

1:11:52

and he's the king. That's why I have 75 cards.

1:11:55

We had a tremendous amount of candor.

1:11:57

I was very right. Yeah, immediately he

1:11:59

took. He took the he took the

1:12:01

the reins and helped us and he started

1:12:03

talking it's you wrote so many questions because

1:12:05

you were so nervous Right seriously Fuck

1:12:08

it's an hour. Yeah, how are you writing

1:12:10

any questions? You didn't get to that. We should listen to

1:12:13

anything you're really pissed you didn't get

1:12:16

to Let's see.

1:12:18

I mean we talked about a lot of I want to

1:12:20

talk about Italy a little bit more and what oh yeah

1:12:22

It's vacation like was ideal vacation. We'll bring Jimmy on and

1:12:24

talk about okay Anyway, so

1:12:26

I love him though. I've been a huge

1:12:28

fan and by the way, I didn't share

1:12:30

with you guys the first What are you

1:12:32

looking at? Nothing? I'm just working He

1:12:37

starts to work on a buy yeah, he's his

1:12:39

brain He's himself up

1:12:42

for it, right? To

1:12:45

do it now we're still doing wrap-up. We're

1:12:47

wrapped we wrapped up. Okay, we're wrapped up

1:12:49

We're ready to go the and we got

1:12:51

jelly roll coming up. Okay, exciting. Oh, yeah.

1:12:53

Oh, so here's the bun So we so

1:12:55

the first time I was ever here Oh,

1:12:57

yeah, the Hamptons was only like two three

1:12:59

years ago And that was the first time

1:13:01

ever and I stayed with will at his

1:13:03

house, which is not very far from here

1:13:05

Okay, and this is gonna be terrible, dude,

1:13:07

and and will live so close So I

1:13:09

was just gonna ask well you're in today.

1:13:11

Did you drive yourself over here? Did you

1:13:14

ride your? Bye Jesus

1:13:20

Christ for the live show that guys But

1:13:23

the interview was fun, was it not? Thank

1:13:27

you guys for coming you so much Thank

1:13:32

you guys and let's go enjoy some jelly

1:13:35

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1:13:38

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