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and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your
1:11
host, Samantha Fay. And I'm Deb
1:13
Bowen. And on last week's
1:15
show, we discussed theories of what awaits
1:17
us on the other side and concluded
1:20
the show with a few examples of
1:22
near-death stories. Today we're
1:24
going to take a deeper dive
1:26
into the survival of consciousness by
1:28
looking at some fascinating other stories
1:30
and research. We ask you to
1:32
think about these questions. What
1:35
is consciousness and where does
1:37
your consciousness reside? Most
1:40
researchers define consciousness as awareness and identity,
1:42
meaning that you have an awareness of
1:44
who you are, where you are, and
1:47
what you're doing. And, you know, this
1:49
includes your personality and personal memories. Sounds
1:51
simple, right? But then
1:53
how can we explain the limitations
1:56
of our memories? The constructs of
1:58
our personality? How does this
2:00
simple definition of consciousness support
2:02
the vast evidence we have for
2:05
survival of consciousness after death? And
2:08
why is it even important to contemplate these
2:10
questions? Well, for
2:12
your own personal happiness. Check
2:15
this out, Deb. I found a
2:17
study that showed people who believe
2:19
that consciousness survives death are happier,
2:21
more peaceful, and have less illness.
2:24
Whereas people who believe that when you
2:26
die, that it shows over, they tend
2:28
to be more depressed and greedy
2:30
and materialistic. I can see that.
2:33
When I was in college working on
2:35
a psych degree, I took
2:37
a course entitled Psychology of Personality. And
2:39
the whole point of the course was
2:42
to try to answer
2:44
that question, what is personality? What
2:46
is consciousness? And of course, there's no
2:49
real answer. There are lots of theories to that.
2:52
And one of the things that came along
2:54
at the same time I was in that
2:56
course was an amazing book by a woman
2:58
named Candace Perk. I'm remembering
3:00
correctly, she won the Nobel
3:03
Prize for her research. But she
3:05
proved that we have opiate
3:07
receptors in our bodies, not
3:10
just in our brains. And
3:12
so the implications of that study is
3:15
that we don't just think with our
3:17
brains. We think with lots of
3:19
other pieces of ourselves. And therefore,
3:21
it is also possible that we
3:23
feel with other parts of our
3:25
bodies that we don't know about,
3:28
and that there's a whole realm
3:30
of connection among consciousness in
3:32
this lifetime and in the afterlife that we don't
3:34
begin to know about. And I just love that.
3:37
Yeah, I do too. And think about
3:39
it. Like if someone walks into a
3:41
room filled with Debra's and
3:43
they say, I'm looking for Deb Bowen, where
3:46
do you point to yourself? Probably
3:48
at your heart. Yeah, at your heart. You don't
3:51
point at your head, you point
3:53
at your heart. So where is our soul?
3:55
Where is our consciousness? Is it in the
3:57
brain? Is it in the heart? Is it
3:59
somewhere else? Is it non-local? It's
4:02
fascinating, isn't it? It is. Yeah.
4:05
Now, according to the Noetic Institute,
4:07
they've identified several categories we can
4:10
look at to try and prove that our
4:12
consciousness does indeed survive death. These
4:15
include evidence from a
4:17
medium, reincarnation, near-death experiences,
4:20
EVPs, electric voice phenomenon,
4:22
you know, like when you capture
4:24
disembodied voice on a recorder, deathbed
4:27
visions, apparitions or
4:29
ghost sightings, and after-death communication.
4:32
When examined together, these categories
4:34
help support a belief in
4:36
the survival of consciousness. Dr.
4:39
Sam Parnia, an intensive care
4:41
physician, recently led a team
4:44
to investigate what he calls the
4:46
hidden consciousness of death by
4:48
measuring electrical activity in the
4:50
brain when the heart stops and breathing
4:53
ceases. He told
4:55
CNN reporter Sandy Lamott, many people
4:57
report the same experience. Their
4:59
consciousness becomes heightened and more vivid. Their
5:02
thinking became sharper and clearer, all
5:05
while doctors like myself are trying to revive them and
5:07
think they're dead. They have a
5:09
sensation they've separated from the body and can see
5:11
and hear doctors and nurses, and they're able to
5:13
report what doctors were doing to them in a
5:16
360-degree way that's inexplicable.
5:20
Dr. Parnia talked about a patient named Aubrey Osteen
5:22
who was 80 years old at the time of
5:24
his heart attack in 2020. Osteen
5:27
said, I said to
5:29
the doctor, wait a minute here before y'all go
5:31
any further, give me some more anesthesia, you know?
5:34
Well, it took me a minute to realize I
5:36
wasn't in the same dimension they were in, so
5:38
they couldn't hear me. Osteen
5:40
then watched his body weave through
5:42
the rib cage and
5:44
float above the operating table. While
5:48
the surgical team cracked his chest, removed
5:50
the heart and began to repair the
5:52
damage. Soon he heard someone
5:54
say, kidneys. Both kidneys
5:56
shut down at the same time and I knew I
5:58
was gone, and that's what it was. went to
6:00
the next level. When I got up there, I
6:02
was in the presence of God, a powerful
6:04
presence, with light shining from behind
6:07
him. The light was brighter than
6:09
anything I've experienced here on Earth, but it
6:11
wasn't blinding. And there was the
6:13
sweetest angel that comforted me and told me,
6:15
relax, everything's going to be fine, and
6:18
that I was going to have to go back. I
6:21
know now that I was sent back to tell
6:23
others about my experience. Stories
6:25
like this fascinated Dr. Parnia, so
6:27
he participated in a research study
6:29
where teams of trained personnel in
6:32
25 hospitals across the
6:34
United States, the United Kingdom, and
6:36
Bulgaria followed doctors into rooms where
6:38
patients were coding or technically dead.
6:41
While doctors performed CPR, the
6:43
research team attached devices that
6:45
measured oxygen and electrical activity
6:47
to the dying person's head. The
6:50
average recitation attempt lasted between 23 and 26
6:52
minutes. However,
6:55
some doctors continued to perform CPR for
6:57
up to an hour. Brain
6:59
activity was measured at two to three
7:02
minute intervals when doctors had to stop
7:04
chest compressions or electric shocks to see
7:06
if the patient's heart would restart. Dr.
7:09
Parnia said, there was no movement,
7:11
it was a silence. That's when we
7:13
would take measurements to see what was happening. We
7:16
found the brains of people who were going through
7:18
death have flatlined, which is what you would expect.
7:21
But interestingly, even
7:23
up to an hour into the recitation,
7:25
we saw spikes, the emergence
7:27
of brain electrical activity,
7:30
the same as I have when talking
7:32
or deeply concentrating. Those spikes
7:35
included gamma, delta, theta,
7:37
alpha, and beta waves. So
7:41
the study took the recorded brain
7:43
signals and compared them with brain
7:45
signals done by other studies on
7:47
hallucinations, delusions, and illusions, and
7:50
found them to be very different. And
7:53
that's really important because so many
7:55
skeptics of this survival of consciousness
7:57
theory will say, oh, all
7:59
these NDs, are just hallucinations
8:01
caused by the dying brain. But
8:04
this study is showing that is
8:06
a completely different type of brain
8:08
response happening. Dr.
8:11
Pernia says, we were able to
8:13
conclude that the recalled experience of death
8:15
is real. It occurs with death and
8:17
there's a brain marker that we've defined.
8:20
These electrical signals are not being produced as
8:22
a trick of a dying brain, which is
8:24
what a lot of critics have said. So what
8:27
do you think about that? Well, you
8:29
know, of course, I've always believed this
8:31
idea. So this makes
8:34
perfect sense to me. I've
8:36
always believed that beyond the
8:39
physical aspect of
8:41
the dying process, when
8:43
there's an NDE going on, there's
8:45
something else that's happening, that there's
8:47
a reason for this event to
8:49
be occurring. Like the fellow
8:52
said with the angel who said, you got to go back,
8:54
you know, you're here to tell other people about this. I
8:57
believe so much that there's a piece of
8:59
the puzzle that we can't
9:02
quantify so much. That's an important
9:04
part of it. Yeah,
9:07
I do too. And I think it's
9:09
interesting that they're starting to attempt and
9:11
get really good evidence to prove this.
9:13
The other thing I find really interesting to have
9:16
is how there are a lot of people out
9:18
there. I mean, not us and not our listeners,
9:21
but there's a lot who aren't
9:23
interested in this at all. Like
9:25
if you're if you're at a party or a dinner
9:28
gathering and you ask people about Dr.
9:30
Raymond Moody or Dr. Bruce Gareson
9:32
or an NDE or
9:34
a shared dying experience, they're probably going
9:37
to look at you and go, I don't know those names.
9:39
What do you what are you talking about? That's
9:41
probably not true in my circle of friends, but I
9:44
understand what you're saying. It's true for a
9:46
lot of people. It really is.
9:49
I just wonder why everyone isn't more
9:51
interested in this. And these people who have these
9:53
NDEs and come back and tell their stories, I
9:56
just wish they were more widely known
9:58
and people were interested in it because Like
10:00
I mentioned at the beginning, studies show that
10:02
the more interested you are in this, the
10:04
happier you are, because it does give you
10:07
hope and faith and a life beyond this
10:09
one. Which I absolutely agree
10:11
with. And I think that a lot
10:13
of times, the naysayers
10:15
that I have known who have said, no, this
10:18
can't be real, are folks
10:20
who believe their way
10:22
of being is the only way there is. That's
10:25
true. And they're not willing to expand or change
10:27
or be flexible with that. All right,
10:29
Deb. I've started out this episode
10:31
with some pretty normal stuff, right?
10:33
Some research and a study and all
10:36
that good jazz. Are
10:38
you ready to dive into a really
10:40
bizarre case? Yes, sure.
10:42
Go right ahead. This will be fun. Okay. Get
10:45
ready, guys. Put your tin foil hats on. I
10:49
have a colander on my head. Go ahead. Okay,
10:51
good. This really bizarre case I'm about
10:53
to tell you about happened 100 years ago. And
10:58
it's based on a question that I've
11:00
always wondered, which is, where does your
11:02
consciousness go when you're
11:04
in a coma? Have you ever wondered
11:06
that? Oh, I sure have. I
11:09
have too. Like, what? Where
11:11
are you? Like, even when you're sleeping, where are
11:13
you? I mean, I wrote an entire book to
11:15
help me answer that question. I do
11:17
believe our consciousness travels when we're sleeping.
11:20
But I think we go somewhere else when we're
11:22
in a coma too. I had
11:24
a neighbor who was in a coma for
11:27
a good long while after a motorcycle accident.
11:29
And I asked him what he recalled of
11:31
that whole time he was in a coma.
11:33
And he said he was in his
11:36
childhood basement playroom with
11:38
his deceased uncle playing video games.
11:41
Wow. Isn't that interesting? And I
11:43
wonder, like, was he there? Or
11:45
was that a hallucination that his brain developed to
11:47
keep him company while he was in a coma?
11:50
I don't know. Okay. My
11:52
story is about Paul Dienak, who
11:54
was a Swiss Austrian teacher, who
11:57
fell into a coma for an entire year.
12:00
in 1921. Now
12:02
Paul dealt with a rare condition called
12:05
encephalitis lethargica, a neurological disease
12:07
that develops an immune system
12:10
response to overloaded neurons. This
12:13
caused him to enter into deep sleep states for
12:15
around 15 to 30 minutes. But in 1921, he
12:17
slipped into the sleep state for a
12:22
whole year. During
12:24
his time while he languished in a coma
12:26
at a hospital in Geneva, he
12:28
says he lived another life as a
12:30
man named Andrew Northam who lived
12:33
in the year 3906. All right, now before we
12:37
dive further into his story, it's important
12:39
to mention one fact. Paul never tried
12:41
to sell his story or profit from
12:44
it in any way. Upon
12:46
waking from his coma, he traveled
12:48
to Greece to teach French and
12:50
German where he befriended a student
12:52
named George Papahades. He left
12:55
George his diary telling him to translate it
12:57
into Greek as a way of furthering his
12:59
studies. When George
13:02
sat down to start doing this, he thought
13:04
he was translating a science fiction novel
13:06
as he read about flying
13:08
vehicles, aliens visiting our planet,
13:10
and an upcoming nuclear war
13:12
until he realized this was Paul's
13:15
story of his own experiences. So
13:18
I just think that's important to note. He
13:21
never told anyone about his incredible
13:23
experience. He simply recorded it all
13:26
in his diary and then left
13:28
that to his student. Okay,
13:31
so let's look at what he says happened
13:33
to him while he was in that coma.
13:35
Peter claims he awoke in a very different
13:37
location and a very different body. The
13:40
hospital looked different too and the
13:42
medical teams surrounding him were speaking in a
13:44
language he'd never heard, which
13:46
is kind of unusual because remember
13:49
he's a language teacher. He was
13:51
fluent in German, Greek, French, Swedish,
13:53
and English, but he can't
13:55
make out what language they're speaking other than
13:57
a few words that sound like English and
13:59
so. that sound like Swedish. But
14:02
everyone around him kept calling him Andrew
14:04
Northam. Who was this Andrew person? He
14:07
kept trying to ask them, but no one could understand him.
14:10
Finally, a doctor who spoke a little German attempted
14:12
to speak to Peter in broken German. And
14:16
he told Peter, yeah, you're Andrew Northam, a
14:18
well-respected physics professor who had an
14:20
accident. The doctor then held up
14:23
a mirror, and Peter was shocked to see
14:25
a different man staring back at his reflection.
14:28
Peter had a breakdown, which I
14:30
think any of us would. He
14:32
found that he just could not stop crying.
14:34
He thought he was either dead or had
14:36
completely lost his mind. And so he
14:39
cried out, I'm just a simple man
14:41
from Switzerland. And he noticed that there was
14:43
like this hush around the room.
14:45
All the doctors reacted visibly to the
14:48
mention of Switzerland. The doctor
14:50
asked him what year he thought
14:52
it was. And Peter said, it's 1922. The
14:55
doctor whose book Broken German gently tells Peter
14:57
that the year is 3,906. Peter doesn't
15:02
believe him. He leaps out of bed
15:04
and stares out the window. And he writes in his
15:07
diary, it was neither gold nor gems that
15:09
he saw like in fairy tales that amazed
15:11
me. Everything there was
15:14
made of a beautiful type of
15:16
crystal, dressed in perfect combinations of
15:18
pastel colors, sky blue, green, white
15:20
and red. Everything from
15:23
the tables and chairs to the stools
15:25
and the scenes gave you the impression
15:27
of colorless metal on which a soft
15:29
light flowed incessantly in harmonic waves. Everything
15:32
was bright and clear. Even the
15:34
flower pots and the crystal blooming springs of
15:36
the flowers. But when
15:38
his eyes focused and settled on the tall
15:41
skyscrapers and the flying vehicles, yeah,
15:44
that's when he fainted. He
15:46
awoke three days later and was led down
15:48
a long corridor to meet with two men
15:51
called Electors. At first
15:53
Peter thinks they're priests, but he's
15:55
told they're just like wise men.
15:57
The Electors listen to Peter's story and
15:59
ask him. many questions before telling
16:01
him that they believe him. They
16:03
teach him about a concept called a
16:05
consciousness shift, where someone's
16:07
mind or soul can be transported
16:09
to another time and person. They
16:12
tell Peter they believe this is what's happening to
16:14
him. They tell him
16:16
that when Andrew, the body Peter is
16:18
occupying, was in the accident, he was
16:20
clinically dead for 15 minutes. And
16:23
they think that's when this consciousness shift happened.
16:26
They also tell him that time isn't linear.
16:29
The electors explain that our consciousness
16:31
is alive and connected to everything
16:33
and everyone. And this includes
16:36
the past, present, and future. They
16:38
talk to him about the relativity of time
16:40
and the potential existence of simultaneous
16:42
time intervals. Here's
16:45
something strange. In this new time and
16:47
body, Peter didn't need to sleep. He
16:50
would stay up constantly learning the
16:52
new language and playing on a
16:55
small handheld device called a Regan
16:57
Schwaga. He said this device had
16:59
sound, moving 3D images, music,
17:01
and narration. In short, it sounds a
17:03
lot like an iPhone or an iPad.
17:07
This is how he describes it in his diary, a
17:10
type of narration that consists of
17:12
simultaneous combination of sight and sound,
17:14
which you do not even need
17:16
to read. A voice
17:19
narrates them and you see pictures come to
17:21
life before you. Peter wanted
17:23
to study everything he could about the past.
17:25
He wanted to know what was going to happen should
17:28
he ever make it back to his own time. And
17:30
the doctors encouraged him to do this with
17:32
one exception. They told him he could not
17:34
study the 20th century. They
17:37
didn't want him to be able to change anything if he
17:39
was able to make it back. Then
17:41
the electors call one of Andrew's friends to
17:43
come and meet Peter. His name
17:46
is Stephen. The electors hope that
17:48
if Stephen can help Andrew remember his own
17:50
memories, then Peter's consciousness would be sent
17:52
back to his own time. Stephen
17:55
examines Peter's handwriting and says it's not
17:58
anything like his friend Andrew's. He
18:00
said, the man I see in front of me
18:02
is indeed Andrew Northam, but by his
18:05
accent, the tone of his voice, and even the
18:07
way he expresses himself and looks at me, I
18:10
can tell it's not him. So
18:13
Stenson begins visiting Peter every day to help
18:16
him. And he does study a lot
18:18
about the past or what you and I
18:20
would call the future. And he learns
18:22
a couple of things. In 2204,
18:25
we colonize mares. Six
18:28
years later, 20 million people are living
18:30
on Mars. In
18:32
2265, a natural
18:34
catastrophe occurs on Mars and it
18:37
wipes out the whole colony. In
18:41
2309, there's a medium-sized nuclear war that
18:43
destroys most of Europe. Only
18:46
the Baltic and the Scandinavian countries
18:48
survived, leading to a global war
18:50
that lasts 80 years and
18:52
wipes out most of the human population. In
18:56
2396, there's a new world government, which leads to 200 years
18:58
of resistance. You
19:03
can imagine, right? Because nobody wants any
19:06
government, never mind one government ruling the
19:08
entire world. But
19:10
a lot of things start to shift
19:12
out of this. Higher offices are now
19:14
held by philosophers and scientists rather than
19:16
politicians. In 2823,
19:19
there's a new economic
19:21
system that's developed based
19:23
on global adequacy, which is when
19:25
people start working in different ways.
19:28
At first, they work for 40 years with
19:30
all their needs met by the global community.
19:33
This eventually shifts into a system where
19:35
you only work for two years. That's
19:38
right, two years. Children are
19:41
educated until they're 17, then
19:43
they work really hard for two years and they
19:46
retire. No money is used. Arts
19:48
and sciences are esteemed over things
19:50
like capitalism and competition. And
19:53
I know you guys are thinking, well, maybe Peter's
19:55
writing this is like a subliminal
19:58
manual to encourage people to
20:01
choose socialism, but that's
20:03
not it at all. He learns about a
20:05
shift that starts happening to the human brain
20:07
around the year 3000, which
20:10
leads to a new sense organ
20:13
developing. It allows people to
20:15
have instant enlightenment or spiritual
20:17
understanding. It was like a
20:19
light switch being turned on. Now,
20:21
at first when this happened, some people
20:24
would, well, die after
20:26
this. They would have a heart attack by
20:28
the overwhelming feelings of unconditional pure
20:30
love. But eventually humanity
20:32
got used to this and
20:34
it became a beautiful new
20:36
society. Selfishness in the time
20:39
that Peter slash Andrew are living
20:41
in the future was studied as
20:43
an ancient tragedy of bygone days.
20:46
Crime was non-existent. There was
20:48
no violence. So what
20:50
do you think so far? I just want to pause
20:52
and get your input from this story. You
20:55
know, the skeptic in me, and I can imagine
20:57
some of our listeners and other folks would think
21:00
this is great science fiction. How
21:03
nice to see science fiction that
21:05
is not dystopian. And
21:07
this is not, this is lovely. So
21:09
that would be my initial thought
21:12
to this. And then I think, oh,
21:15
how wonderful this would be. Wouldn't this be
21:17
great that it were true? And
21:20
wouldn't it be nice if it happened more quickly than
21:22
however many? I can't do the math,
21:24
but more than a thousand years from now. Yeah,
21:26
a long, long time from now. One
21:28
thing he does mention, or I should
21:31
say Stefan tells Peter slash Andrew,
21:34
is that off-planet beings do
21:36
visit and they
21:38
do watch us and all of that.
21:41
But he said they prefer to keep
21:43
their distance and always have. And
21:45
they just want to study us. And they try
21:47
to intervene to prevent, you know,
21:49
things like nuclear wars, which clearly
21:51
they weren't successful at with the
21:54
one that Peter mentioned happening in 2309. But I
21:56
thought that was
21:59
interesting. Yeah. Now,
22:02
during this time, Peter dates a woman
22:04
named Sylvia, who he believes is the
22:06
reincarnated soul of his true love Anna.
22:09
Finally, one night he closes his
22:11
eyes and sleeps. So,
22:14
as I mentioned, when he would stay up
22:16
all night playing on the iPad-type device learning
22:18
the new language because he couldn't sleep during
22:20
this entire year, can you imagine not being
22:23
able to sleep? He does write
22:25
in his diary that he would
22:27
stay in the hospital just flipping
22:29
through this iPad thing, learning
22:31
about his new time and place. And
22:34
he said when the sun came up in the morning,
22:36
he felt completely refreshed. He did not need sleep. But
22:39
one night as the year comes to a close,
22:42
he does feel his eyes getting very, very
22:45
heavy and he finally falls asleep. And
22:47
when he wakes up, he's back in his
22:49
body and in his own time. Now,
22:52
you can read the full diary in a book that
22:54
has been translated into English. It's
22:57
called The Chronicles of the Future.
22:59
And I think it's just a really
23:02
interesting story to contemplate of
23:04
where did he go? Did he really
23:07
go into the future? Now, clearly, we
23:09
won't be able to prove any part
23:11
of his story, as Deb said, for
23:13
about a thousand years. But
23:15
another aspect of the story I find interesting
23:18
is his student who was
23:20
gifted this diary or bequeathed this
23:22
diary and tasked with translating it
23:25
and getting it published was a very,
23:27
very well respected, highly educated man in
23:29
Greece. He was a lawyer. He sat
23:32
on many boards. He
23:34
was also a Mason and the Masons
23:36
showed an extreme interest in this story
23:38
and kept it to themselves and kind
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back. We've been discussing what
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strange experiences like NDE's and
27:22
Paul D'Nac's story can tell us
27:24
about survival of consciousness. Many
27:27
scientists support an idea called filter
27:29
theory, which is really complicated.
27:31
But basically it means that the
27:34
brain has to filter out all
27:36
sorts of information, stimuli, and responses
27:38
coming at us every day. You
27:41
can check out a show we did on the
27:43
Varticular Activating System and how to program your brain
27:45
to manifest for you, which
27:47
aired on November 17th, 2019.
27:50
And I'll link it in the show notes. But
27:53
basically the, that show talks
27:55
about how our brain filters out
27:57
all sorts of other information. information
28:00
that's not important to us and
28:02
only delivers to our brain, to
28:05
our conscious mind information and stimuli
28:07
that we need to know for
28:09
ourselves. That's
28:12
why one of the best examples of how this
28:14
works is you can be in a crowded mall
28:16
or a bar or an airport and one person
28:19
will call out your name. Even
28:21
though there's thousands of voices and humming and
28:23
noises going on around you, you will hear
28:25
your name being called. That's
28:27
the reticular activating system. But
28:30
this idea of a brain
28:32
filtering theory to support the
28:34
premise of a non-local consciousness
28:36
is much deeper than the
28:38
reticular activating system. You
28:40
might have seen, for example, the famous study
28:43
where students are shown a video of two
28:45
teams throwing a ball back and forth. The
28:48
students are asked if they saw anything unusual. I'll
28:51
say no until it's pointed out that a
28:53
man dressed in a gorilla suit walks across
28:55
the court during the ballgame. When
28:57
the students watch the video again, they all
29:00
see the gorilla. This is
29:02
a classic example of brain filtering. And
29:05
I can remember being in a psychology
29:07
class and our teacher showing us this video
29:09
and he didn't tell us what we were
29:11
going to see. He just said, watch this.
29:14
It was like a two minute video,
29:16
if that. Watch this video and write
29:18
down what you see. And we all wrote down the
29:21
people we saw, the ball being thrown
29:23
back and forth, the court. And
29:26
we all shared what we saw. And he said, no one
29:29
saw the guy dressed in the gorilla suit. And we
29:31
thought he was just playing a joke on
29:33
us, plays it back. And sure enough,
29:35
there it is in the background. So
29:39
it's mind blowing until you experience it again.
29:41
But the brain really does filter
29:43
out a lot of information that it
29:45
feels we don't need. William
29:48
James, considered the father of
29:50
psychology, said that the brain
29:52
filters out our access to much of
29:54
consciousness. He said the brain acts
29:56
as a partial barrier and gives us only
29:58
the surface of what is possible. for us
30:00
to perceive. Studies have
30:02
shown that when the brain is inactive or
30:05
minimally active, like in near-death
30:07
experiences, energy healing,
30:09
hypnosis, or deep meditative states,
30:11
the filter becomes thinner, and
30:14
we can experience the expanded consciousness that
30:16
is usually blocked. This
30:19
means that the brain does not house
30:21
consciousness. Our conscious is
30:23
not rooted in the brain or created
30:26
or controlled by the brain. Our
30:29
consciousness exists outside of us and inside
30:31
of us, but wholly separate from the
30:33
brain. The brain merely
30:36
acts as a micromanager, selecting
30:38
and filtering out experiences that
30:40
are directly important to us. All
30:43
possibilities exist simultaneously, and
30:46
our brain simply selects the one
30:48
that is most in alignment with
30:51
our inner world, our thoughts,
30:53
beliefs, and expectations. So
30:57
one of the studies I read to help me understand this,
31:00
one of the researchers said, if
31:03
you handed a pioneer an iPhone
31:06
and said you can use this device to call
31:08
someone, they would probably take
31:10
that iPhone apart looking
31:14
for the person that was speaking
31:16
through that iPhone device,
31:19
but it's not there. It's just a transmitter. And
31:22
the researcher was trying to say, it's
31:24
the same thing, you can't dissect the
31:26
brain and find consciousness because the brain
31:29
is simply a transmitter for consciousness. And
31:32
it made me think of that really funny story I've
31:34
told before of when we
31:36
had this app on our phone,
31:40
what was it called? I think you had it at 1.2, TAP. The
31:43
ghost recorder app was different. Oh yeah, I
31:45
did. Where it would
31:47
scan radio frequencies. And
31:49
I'm sitting around the dinner table at my
31:51
sister's house and I'm showing them this thing.
31:55
And my mom says, well, let's
31:57
see if we can talk to Maggie, my
31:59
former mother. in law who my mother loved just
32:01
as much as I did. And
32:03
so we all said, Maggie, are you there? And
32:06
we heard it beep
32:08
through and it went, Michael, and
32:10
then it scanned again, because it scans all
32:12
the different frequencies. And it said Robert, and
32:14
those are the names of her two sons.
32:17
And my mom grabbed the phone and she
32:19
stared into the app and she goes, Maggie,
32:22
are you there? Are you happy? What's it
32:24
like? And she starts trying to talk to
32:26
Maggie, not realizing that
32:28
the app was just a transmitter
32:30
of radio frequencies. And
32:32
the belief or premise or idea is
32:35
that our loved ones on the
32:37
other side can kind of pull
32:39
from those radio frequencies being transmitted
32:41
and whole different words that will
32:43
help communicate with us. I
32:46
think that's kind of how we look
32:48
at our consciousness, that it's inside of
32:50
our brain. But these studies are showing
32:52
it's not, you know, Samantha, when I
32:54
had that app on my phone, I got
32:57
rid of it, because no matter what I did,
32:59
where I was, how I was working with it,
33:01
who was with me, what the
33:04
most what the app said was,
33:06
Larry, Larry, who is
33:09
Larry? I have no idea who
33:11
Larry was. That is
33:13
so wild. I remember Dale and I were
33:15
working with it one night. And
33:17
that's mostly what we could get it to say it
33:19
was really bizarre, just a
33:22
totally strange thing. But, you know,
33:24
as you're talking about this notion
33:26
of where consciousness resides.
33:29
And as I said, with that book with with Candace Perkin,
33:32
you'll remember to put that in the show notes too, that
33:34
would be great. If you
33:36
if you think about that, I
33:38
think that one of the things we're
33:40
learning and science is certainly learning is
33:42
that we have ways
33:45
of inputting
33:47
and exporting information
33:50
far greater than what our
33:52
brain can do. Our
33:54
bodies do
33:57
the work as well. Our emotions
33:59
do. I just think
34:01
it's a fascinating idea to look
34:03
at how consciousness is
34:06
not just within us, but
34:08
with everything around us. I mean, plants
34:10
have consciousness, for example. Exactly.
34:13
I will put the book in the show
34:15
notes. It's called Molecules of Emotion, the Science
34:18
Behind Mind-Body Medicine. That's it, by
34:20
Candace Perk. Okay, perfect.
34:23
I'll remember to put that in there, too. If
34:27
you can think about how our
34:29
brain sees, this has always fascinated
34:31
me to have that we're only
34:33
to see certain
34:36
things in a very specific visible light
34:38
spectrum that ranges from violet light to
34:40
red light. I've
34:43
always wondered what's beyond those colors.
34:46
Remember in that documentary, What the Bleak Did
34:48
We Know? And it
34:50
talked about how in Socrates'
34:52
time, we couldn't see the
34:54
color blue, that they didn't describe the ocean as
34:56
being blue. Yes, I do
34:58
remember that. Because we had to develop
35:01
the capacity to see blue. And
35:03
they couldn't see Columbus' ship on
35:06
the water, remember that scene? Yes, yes.
35:08
Because there was no such thing as a ship like that. Right.
35:11
And so they just couldn't see it because
35:13
the brain was filtering it out because it
35:15
had nothing to connect it to. I've
35:19
always thought about that. And what is all
35:21
around us right now, right now, as
35:24
you're listening to this, that you can't
35:26
see? Because your brain's like, no, that
35:28
does not make sense. And that's
35:30
not going to help him or her
35:32
right now. So we're not going to transmit
35:34
that. We can only hear sounds between 20 hertz and
35:36
20,000 hertz or 10 octaves. Again,
35:40
what exists below and beyond this
35:43
range? Check out this
35:45
quote by Nikola Tesla. He said, my
35:47
brain is only a receiver. In
35:50
the universe, there is a core from
35:52
which we obtain knowledge, strength, and inspiration.
35:55
I have not penetrated into the secrets of
35:57
this core, but I know that it exists.
36:01
And Aldous Huxley wrote, mind at
36:03
large has to be funneled to
36:05
the reducing valve of the brain
36:07
and nervous system. What comes
36:09
out at the other end is immediately
36:11
trickle of the kind of consciousness,
36:13
which will help us to stay alive
36:16
on the surface of this particular planet.
36:19
And Dr. Natalie Dyer writes, this
36:21
filtering mechanism can be altered, allowing
36:24
an experience of other aspects of
36:26
reality not normally perceived. This
36:29
alteration may be occurring
36:31
during mystical experiences, psychedelic
36:33
experiences, mediumship, and other
36:35
psychical phenomena. Perhaps
36:37
we are also connected
36:39
non-locally through the one
36:41
mind or mind at large, re-emerging
36:44
with it upon death. We
36:46
know that the brain is constantly
36:49
filtering information, much of which never
36:51
reaches our awareness. Information
36:53
from both our external environment and
36:55
internal mental environment is filtered,
36:58
meaning we are only ever aware of
37:00
a very small portion of reality at
37:02
any given moment. If
37:04
we think of the brain as a filter
37:06
for consciousness, we can change the dial and
37:09
tap into information normally outside
37:11
of our own internal database.
37:14
This is the theory for
37:16
how psi abilities occur. That
37:19
is just so fascinating to think about,
37:21
isn't it? It really is.
37:23
And it just makes you wonder, you
37:27
know, how much is out there that
37:29
we aren't seeing or perceiving? And
37:34
how long will it take for
37:36
most of us to get on board with
37:38
this idea that our consciousness
37:40
exists within and around and outside of
37:43
us, and it does indeed survive
37:45
death? Because I think it's really important
37:47
to get behind this
37:49
idea, because then it will
37:51
help us become cognizant of our
37:54
own form of immortality, but
37:56
also our interconnectedness to each
37:58
other and all that. is. And
38:01
that I think will help
38:03
fill that missing piece. You know
38:05
how people always talk about like, Oh, I feel like
38:07
there's something missing, or I feel like I'm searching
38:09
for something outside of myself. And everyone, all
38:11
the mystics and gurus and teachers through the
38:14
ages have said it's within it really is
38:16
within it's within and without because we're
38:18
swimming in it. It's like a
38:21
wave telling his other wave friends, I
38:23
miss water. When really the
38:25
wave is water, and
38:27
everything the wave needs is within and
38:29
around him. You know, when
38:32
I when I think about the idea
38:34
that we are the wave, we are swimming
38:36
in it, that's, I think, one
38:38
of the difficulties is that we
38:40
are so immersed, really,
38:43
in these concepts that we
38:45
can't telescope out and
38:48
observe them very well. I
38:50
think that's a part of the issue that
38:52
we as humans face, is that
38:55
it's, it's so big, and yet it's so
38:57
much a part of us, that
38:59
we don't conceptualize it well at
39:02
all. And because it's not something
39:04
that we have been taught in
39:06
some kind of structured, academic kind
39:08
of way, we either denounce it,
39:11
or ridicule it, or deny
39:14
it, or are such skeptics
39:16
about it, rather than saying,
39:18
gosh, isn't this a really
39:20
cool possibility? Yeah,
39:22
and what I think is a
39:24
really fascinating possibility, if you start to
39:27
study this, especially
39:29
if you look at the the Noetic
39:31
Research Institute that I talked about, or
39:33
Rine, or Dr. Natalie Dyer, or Dean
39:35
Radin's work, a lot of
39:38
them are saying that you can, you
39:40
can work on this filter idea
39:43
of your brain through consciously
39:46
strengthening your, your right
39:48
brain. So most of our
39:51
life is ruled by our left
39:53
brain, logical, analytical thinking, but
39:55
it's our right brain that helps to
39:58
expand this filter so that that it's not
40:00
so narrow and that we aren't filtering out
40:02
all of these things. And
40:04
I wonder if that's why, you know,
40:07
those of us who do have
40:09
more psi experiences, as
40:12
kids, we were more naturally
40:15
meditative or more on our own
40:18
or observers or going off into
40:20
our own worlds through books or
40:22
drawing or tinkering with
40:24
Legos or Lincoln logs or what have
40:26
you. I wonder if we
40:28
were priming the pump, so to speak,
40:30
you know, when we talked, Dr. Huxley
40:32
talked about the reducing valve in our
40:35
brain. I wonder if those of
40:37
us who are interested in these things and
40:39
listen to podcasts like ours,
40:41
it's because our reducing valve isn't
40:44
maybe as narrow as the other
40:46
persons next to us because we
40:48
were encouraged to expand
40:51
our right brain or
40:53
we had to, like in my, in my
40:55
experience, I was encouraged. To
40:57
be creative and imaginative. But I also
40:59
felt like I had no choice. Like
41:01
I, I always felt like any
41:04
moments in time I had at school
41:06
or on the playground where I could
41:08
kind of zone out or tuck into
41:11
a book, I always relish those times
41:13
and would, and would look forward to
41:15
them. You know,
41:17
Samantha, I haven't been for a right
41:19
good while. I confess to the Noetic
41:21
Sciences website, but I used to go
41:23
frequently and they had a whole section of
41:26
side games you could play to
41:28
work on this for yourself. You
41:31
know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And
41:34
I think those are incredibly helpful. I think
41:36
everyone should do it because you know, psychic
41:38
ability, we've said many times is like a
41:41
muscle and you do have to strengthen it
41:43
and I think that's great too. Um,
41:46
but you know, Dr. Natalie Dyer
41:48
was saying getting out in
41:50
nature more meditating, uh, twice
41:52
a day. If you can try to meditate for a little bit
41:55
in the morning, a little bit at night, but
41:57
just daydreaming, just letting your mind.
42:00
is also incredibly helpful for expanding
42:02
the silt of our brain. I did want
42:05
to mention since you know
42:07
last week we talked a lot about near-death
42:09
experiences I did want to
42:11
mention some books and I will I'll put
42:13
these in the show notes too that
42:15
listeners might really like. Dr.
42:19
Bruce Grayson who we mentioned
42:21
last week has a great book called After. Dr.
42:25
Jeffrey Long and Paul Perry
42:27
have a book called Evidence
42:29
of the Afterlife. There's a
42:31
really fascinating book by Rajiv
42:33
Party called Dying to Wake Up, a
42:36
doctor's voyage into the afterlife and
42:38
the wisdom he brought back and
42:41
I might actually want to do a whole show
42:43
on his book because he
42:45
talks about being this very materialistic doctor.
42:48
He had the giant house and the
42:50
Hummer and the Porsche and you know all
42:53
the fancy stuff you're supposed to have when
42:55
you're an amazing heart surgeon that
42:57
he was and he had a pain clinic and he
42:59
got addicted to pain pills
43:01
through you know the access he had
43:03
in his pain clinic and
43:06
he had a prostate cancer that
43:09
led to incontinence and so he had
43:11
to have a device implanted
43:14
in him this caused an infection that's
43:16
how he died and when
43:18
he died he was met by his father
43:21
who was kind of like his tour guide and
43:24
he talks in the book about how he and
43:26
his father had a very difficult relationship and this
43:28
of course was healed in this near-death
43:30
experience and the father introduced
43:33
him to two angels Archangel
43:35
Michael and Archangel Raphael and
43:38
he was able to witness
43:40
several of his past lives and
43:42
there's a whole section in the book tab where he
43:45
talks about how there is no
43:47
time and so
43:49
he's witnesses a past life where he
43:51
was you know kind of mean he was
43:54
leading a bunch of men
43:56
working I can't remember it was
43:58
in a mine and he had this his whip
44:00
and he was constantly flicking his wrist
44:02
with the whip. And in his
44:04
present life, he always had wrist pain
44:07
that he couldn't understand. And
44:09
when he's witnessing this past life where
44:11
he's this mean man, I kept
44:14
thinking of Scrooge, you know, like when the Ghost
44:17
of Christmas Past is bringing him to these
44:19
different areas of his life review. This
44:21
is what it felt like to me when I was reading his book. But
44:24
he was able to apologize to those men
44:26
in this state of mind. And
44:29
when he woke up from his NDE,
44:31
the wrist pain was gone. And
44:34
so he writes about how you don't have to have
44:36
a near death experience. You know, he said,
44:38
if you do past life hypnosis, for example,
44:41
and you offer forgiveness or receive
44:43
forgiveness for things that happened in
44:45
the past, it will affect
44:47
your present and your future lives. I
44:50
found that to be a very intriguing part
44:52
of the book. So I just recommend it
44:54
highly for anyone interested in these topics. Another
44:57
one of my favorites, a really small book,
44:59
it's like I used to call my little
45:01
Chloe is she's taller than me now, but
45:04
she was tiny. And I used to always
45:06
say, Chloe, you're tiny but mighty. That's
45:08
how this book is by Dr. George Ritchie. It's
45:10
tiny but mighty return from
45:12
tomorrow. It is packed
45:15
with fascinating wisdom and insights into
45:17
what awaits us on the other
45:19
side. We mentioned Dr. Evan Alexander's
45:21
book, proof of heaven. Anita Morajani,
45:23
I'm assuming most listeners have read her book
45:25
dying to be me. Fascinating.
45:27
And so many doctors have gone on
45:29
record saying she shouldn't be alive. We
45:31
don't know how she was healed so
45:34
instantaneously. So her story
45:36
is riveting to explore the wisdom
45:38
of near death experiences by Dr.
45:40
Penny Sertori. So there's
45:42
just so many wonderful books
45:44
out there that you can read to help
45:47
expand that reducing
45:50
valve system of our brain filter.
45:53
I believe that when you listen to shows like
45:55
this, and when you read books like the ones
45:57
we've mentioned, when you just take a
45:59
minute to to meditate or pray or
46:02
read a book of poetry, anything that
46:04
expands your mind and opens
46:07
up your inner insight, I
46:09
think it really does help us to perceive
46:12
and receive so much of what's out there
46:14
and waiting for us to discover. I
46:17
do too. I think that one of the things
46:19
that we do with this podcast is
46:21
that we invite people to look at the
46:24
world through different lenses. And
46:26
a show like this one is one of
46:28
those that really does say, we
46:30
don't know, but isn't it
46:33
fun to contemplate? And wouldn't
46:35
it be fun to know in the time I
46:37
do believe will come when we will know? Yeah,
46:41
and I think I'm
46:43
not disagreeing with you at all. I just, I think
46:45
it's more than fun. I think
46:47
it's very important. I think it is
46:50
crucial that we learn
46:53
these aspects of our potential.
46:56
And I think it is such a
46:58
gift to be alive, to
47:00
be given a body, to be on this
47:03
earth. That is one thing that has come
47:05
up so many times in readings that I have
47:07
done, is what a gift it
47:09
is to be on this earth. And
47:11
I think it's our job
47:14
really to make the best of
47:16
this gift, and
47:18
to not morph into hamsters
47:20
on a working wheel of just
47:23
going to work and coming home
47:25
and watching TV and maybe having
47:27
a beer with friends after work and watching a
47:29
game. Nothing wrong with any of
47:31
that. We all need fun and enjoyment. I'm just
47:33
saying, I think we also have
47:35
a right and a privilege
47:37
and a responsibility to fully
47:40
embrace the seeker's path. And what
47:42
comes out of that will
47:45
be that feeling of oneness and
47:47
connection that I think we all
47:49
know is instinctively our
47:51
divine right. And yet, so
47:55
few people feel it right now in this
47:57
time we're living where it does feel. like
48:00
we're all disconnected. In the
48:02
age of connection, I think people feel more
48:04
disconnected than ever. And this
48:07
is why I think it is
48:09
fun to explore these concepts, but
48:11
I also think it's kind of our
48:13
privilege as well. I
48:16
agree. Well, I hope listeners agree too,
48:18
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