On Saturday, May 11th, 2019 I had the absolute pleasure to have a  casual conversation with a Masonic Brother and the 2015 Past Grand Master of California Most Worshipful Russ Charvonia.

Our conversation was a Skype call, recorded on my Microsoft Surface Pro IV, in the garage, on Wifi using TechSmith's Camtasia 9.5. I did all the post work in Propellerhead Software's Reason. The Podcast is hosted at https://anchor.fm/masonicwages

As mentioned in the podcast, here's the link to the info on the  Civility Scorecard which contains all the information you'll need to access this amazing tool.