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Ready to bring you yet? Another exciting

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foray into the vast expansive,

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sometimes daunting. Never

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intimidating. Terrain that

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we have lovingly dubbed the

1:56

sprawl. On the show today. Ghost

1:59

towns. We have a

2:02

plethora of them. Throughout

2:04

our. The scope of influence.

2:06

From the high desert to the Sierras.

2:10

And all the way down south to the border.

2:12

Our beloved sprawl. Is

2:14

littered with towns that

2:17

once were. When I was at college

2:19

at the university of Arizona. My best

2:21

friend and I took a trip. Uh, to

2:23

tombstone maybe 25

2:25

miles outside. Of Tucson

2:28

proper. It was.

2:30

Well, It wasn't the Kurt Russell,

2:32

Val Kilmer film. Shall we say? No

2:35

instead. Of the gunfight at the OK.

2:38

Corral. What we saw

2:40

was a. Pastiche.

2:43

A kind of makeshift.

2:45

Town in quotes. Dad

2:47

had reconfigured

2:49

structures dating back

2:51

to the old west. Though.

2:54

It seemed a little cheap and

2:56

underwhelming. In my humble opinion.

2:59

I was nevertheless quite taken.

3:01

With the idea. Of what once

3:03

had stood. Where I was standing. I

3:06

was walking on hallowed ground, if

3:08

you will, or at least that's how

3:10

I saw it. And when I found out.

3:12

That Southern California in the whole

3:14

state. In general. He happens

3:17

to have. Well over a hundred.

3:19

Of these ghost towns. I

3:21

was dutifully intrigued.

3:24

Sometimes as we look

3:26

at. The history of the towns

3:29

that we're going to be discussing. Well, we find

3:31

different reasons as to why

3:33

once prosperous. Communities.

3:36

Ultimately became no

3:38

more. Sometimes.

3:40

It was a simple matter of. Over

3:43

mining or region. Taking

3:45

every last kernel of

3:47

valuable. Extract.

3:49

From a rock formation. And

3:51

other cases. Transportation.

3:54

Play the large role. Still sometimes.

3:57

Natural disasters. Reared

4:00

their ugly head into the discussion. While

4:03

these. Ghost towns. have all

4:05

dried up for one reason or

4:07

another. And those reasons as

4:09

we've just outlined. Can vary quite

4:11

a bit. It's undisputable

4:13

that Southern California. Is.

4:16

A veritable hub. For

4:18

once thriving communities

4:20

that no longer exist. So

4:23

let's take a look at some of them. As we count

4:25

down. The 10 must see

4:27

ghost towns. To check out

4:29

in the Southern half. Of the golden

4:32

state. I

4:34

number 10. The. Manzanita.

4:36

Ghost town. This is in.

4:38

In Iowa county. Just.

4:41

On the outskirts of. Our famed

4:43

Sierra Nevada's. Think

4:46

Northeast, if Los

4:48

Angeles is your point. Of

4:50

reference. Ne

4:53

with a capital and the capital.

4:55

IE. A little bit of an outlier

4:57

from the other places that we're going to be

4:59

surveying over the course of this episode. This

5:03

town. Was originally. Founded

5:05

by George Chaffey. Whose name

5:07

is all over some of the colleges

5:10

and buildings. In the inland empire.

5:13

Resources. We're plentiful.

5:15

Around the turn of the century, the first

5:18

decade. Of the 20th century.

5:20

And initially. People such as

5:22

Mr. Chaffey. Made a killing.

5:25

Taking all those resources

5:27

out of the town and exporting them

5:29

to. Much wider population

5:32

centers in the Southern half of the state. When

5:35

iron. Exporting. Dried

5:37

up. Many of the towns, folk.

5:39

Looked for work. And life elsewhere.

5:42

And this once. Quite promising

5:44

town. Really sort of dried up.

5:47

Flash forward. To world war

5:49

II. When nearly 120,000

5:53

Japanese Americans. We're stripped

5:55

of their property. Removed

5:57

from society. And sent

5:59

away to internment camps.

6:02

Here at Manzanita. 120,000

6:06

Japanese American. People were housed

6:08

in the fairly infamous

6:11

internment camp. This is where they

6:13

lived. This is where their children. Learned

6:16

and studied. This was

6:18

the beginning in the end. Of the

6:20

sentence. From 1942

6:22

through November of 1945.

6:25

If you go. Today. You'll

6:27

see vestiges of the areas.

6:30

Awful past. I've been

6:32

to a couple of different. Places

6:34

like this over the course of my life. Seeing

6:37

it with your own eyes experiencing.

6:39

How densely. Populated.

6:42

A place such as this. Might've been. It

6:44

really brings home. The struggle.

6:47

The injustice. And brings to life.

6:49

One of the greatest pockmarks.

6:52

On American. Culture. In

6:54

the entire history of. This

6:56

country. And number 10.

6:58

Man And

7:02

number nine. Ponza.

7:04

This is in San Luis Obispo county.

7:07

And for those of you thinking, wow. A

7:09

ghost town. Along the central coast, San

7:11

Luis Obispo county. Surely that

7:13

can't be a thing. I'm here to tell you

7:16

that it is. This area.

7:18

Was once home. To over a thousand.

7:21

Men women and children. Who were there

7:23

in search of gold gold.

7:26

As so often was the case.

7:28

In the 19th century. It was found

7:31

in nearby mountains.

7:33

And whenever. That transpired.

7:35

Uh, town, when you know, it came

7:38

into fruition. Uh, post office

7:40

once stood here. Schoolhouses

7:43

the general store. Of course,

7:45

of course, a saloon or But

7:49

when gold. No longer

7:51

flowed. From the mountains.

7:53

Interest in the town. Came to a halt.

7:56

And folks. Found

7:58

better prospects. Elsewhere. There's

8:01

really only a single building,

8:03

still standing from. The

8:05

gold rush period. It's still

8:08

The type of building where by the time.

8:11

This podcast goes out into the

8:13

world. It may no longer be there.

8:16

It's a very perilous situation

8:18

with respect to the loan surviving

8:21

building from the gold rush period. But

8:23

as of this recording, It is still there.

8:26

You can see with your own eyes and even

8:28

by the time it's no longer there,

8:30

you can visit the former Lebanza

8:33

settlement. To know. Then even

8:35

in the most unlikely places within

8:37

the Southern California sprawl. There

8:40

has. To be a ghost

8:42

town. Number

8:44

eight Alan's worth.

8:46

This is outside of Visalia

8:49

in the central valley, roughly

8:52

45 miles north of

8:54

Bakersfield. This town.

8:57

Or former town. Bears. Reference.

9:00

As it's one of the earliest examples

9:02

of. African-Americans

9:05

banding together. And making

9:07

a go of it. In 1908.

9:10

General Allen. Allensworth

9:13

a. Former slave

9:15

turned. Civil war leader.

9:18

Decided to rest his weary

9:20

head. Along. With a number

9:22

of others. Evelyn's worth

9:24

helped to turn. This little

9:27

piece of heaven outside Visalia. Into

9:29

the town that would come to

9:31

bear his name. Though the

9:33

town. Has long since

9:36

gone by the wayside. Preservationists.

9:38

Banded together. To create.

9:41

A state park. Out of the

9:43

terrain. Including. Replicas

9:46

of a number of the notable

9:48

buildings from the period.

9:51

The town in earnest really

9:53

only existed from 1908

9:55

through 1914. At

9:57

that point. Alan's worth. Had

10:00

difficulty. Gaining access

10:02

to clean water and

10:04

it was the water crisis.

10:07

That provoked townspeople to look

10:09

for opportunities elsewhere. Alan's

10:12

worth. Died in a tragic.

10:14

Automobile accident in Monrovia

10:18

in Los Angeles county. Of all places.

10:20

But the re-imagined. Alan's worth,

10:23

which you can visit at the

10:25

Colonel Allen J Allensworth

10:27

state historic park. Is there

10:29

to be visited. You can learn

10:32

about. This period in California

10:34

history, the contributions

10:36

of African-Americans to the creation.

10:39

Of. The town of Allensworth.

10:41

And if you'd like to pay your

10:43

respects to Colonel Allensworth

10:46

yourself. This is

10:48

one of those folks where you read about him

10:50

in your mind automatically goes to,

10:52

oh wow. That guy was a hero. If you

10:55

read his biography. A lot

10:57

of information about Colonel Allensworth.

10:59

I believe you'll come to the same conclusion.

11:01

And if you'd like to pay your respects to him,

11:04

he is actually buried in Los Angeles

11:06

at the Angeles Rose

11:08

Dale cemetery. Which

11:11

is. Maybe two and a half miles

11:13

away from the staple center. But

11:16

if you, can you find yourself

11:18

in that part of the state? Definitely.

11:21

Make an effort to check out the

11:23

once thriving. Town

11:25

of allensworth Number

11:28

seven Darwin. Now

11:31

we're in NAU county. Think

11:33

Northeast again, I'll go back

11:35

to that. Ne with a capital

11:38

N and a capital E.

11:40

Just outside the Sierras.

11:44

Also relatively close to

11:46

death valley. Darwin.

11:48

Which currently has a population

11:51

of about 40. Resident's

11:53

give or take. Was once.

11:55

Home to. An explosion

11:57

of. Iron mining. Iron

12:00

would be. Transported.

12:02

From the area. Down to

12:05

concentrations. Places

12:08

where the population figures were

12:10

significantly larger. At one

12:12

point there were over. 500

12:14

people in the town. And at the turn

12:17

of the century. You could be

12:19

forgiven. For believing. That the

12:21

resources were never going

12:23

to run Unfortunately for

12:25

Darwin. The resources basically

12:28

did run And. Excitement

12:31

about the town and its prospects

12:33

round to a screeching halt.

12:36

There was a documentary. From a Swiss

12:38

filmmaker that came out in 2011,

12:41

simply called Darwin. That you can

12:43

find. Which is clearly

12:45

a European person. Who's fascinated

12:48

that people are still holding To

12:50

life in Darwin, even if it's just

12:52

the 40 people who decided

12:54

to get out of camera and document

12:57

his adventures. It's a fascinating

12:59

documentary. If you happen to be

13:01

interested in that kind of thing. But

13:03

if you find yourself in the area,

13:06

Darwin. Is a great place to see.

13:08

The remnants of a society

13:10

that believed. It was a mortal and

13:12

found out depressingly

13:15

that it wasn't. Number

13:17

six. Keeler. This

13:20

is also in Nao county.

13:22

What do you kind of realize here when

13:24

you study the state of California, is that different

13:27

regions have their specialties?

13:29

Fish tacos and San Diego.

13:32

Regular. Non fish tacos

13:34

in Los Angeles, et cetera,

13:37

et cetera, places have their thing

13:39

with an IO county it's ghost

13:41

towns, without question. So

13:43

here, we're talking about Keeler. Which

13:45

is south of lone

13:48

pine. And probably

13:50

is. Really pushing the bounds

13:52

of our geographical.

13:54

Focus on this year podcast.

13:57

But in any case, We have another

13:59

example of a town. That's subsisted.

14:02

On natural resources

14:04

that were to be found within

14:06

its boundaries. It's

14:08

that age, old story. There's

14:10

a silver explosion. Everyone

14:13

goes nuts for the product. Mining

14:16

operations begin in earnest.

14:19

People who are doing the mining? Well, they need

14:21

places to sleep. Stuff to eat.

14:24

Oh, things to drink.

14:27

And a town Springs to life. Out of

14:29

seemingly nowhere. But

14:31

as is also the case. With

14:33

the majority of the ghost towns.

14:35

To be visited in the Southern

14:37

California area. Those resources.

14:41

We're not limitless.

14:43

The price of silver. Dropped

14:45

dramatically. When basically

14:48

the us government took control of

14:50

it. And so silver mining

14:52

was no longer profitable.

14:56

And people took their collective

14:58

business. And travel elsewhere.

15:01

At Keeler, you've got over

15:03

10 examples. Uh, buildings

15:06

that date back over a hundred years. Not

15:09

all of them are in great condition. In fact,

15:11

basically, Most of them are.

15:13

In less than desirable condition.

15:16

But an interesting. Time capsule.

15:19

Of an era. Uh, time and place

15:21

that decidedly no longer exist.

15:25

Number five Eagle mountain.

15:27

This is in Riverside county.

15:30

Maybe 60 miles outside

15:33

of India. It's not

15:35

that close to life. Not

15:37

particularly close to the Coachella

15:40

valley. It's really not close to anything.

15:43

And that is. At least partially

15:45

why the town is

15:47

no more. This one has a little bit

15:49

of a different backstory. Henry

15:52

J Kaiser of Kaiser

15:54

Permanente fame. Sot too.

15:57

Mine the area. For

15:59

all it was worth. After the conclusion

16:01

of the second world war. He needed

16:03

places to house. The

16:05

minors, the employees who were working

16:07

on his behalf. And the town

16:09

grew up. Around this activity

16:12

as a result. There once

16:14

stood. Eagle mountain high school.

16:17

Which last had a

16:19

graduating class in the year of our

16:21

Lord, 1983. There

16:24

were once two. Elementary schools

16:26

and a middle school. A shopping center.

16:29

All the trappings that you'd come to expect

16:32

from a well, a town. Unfortunately.

16:35

Production as it tends to do dried

16:38

up. And Henry J

16:40

Kaiser. Put his energy in

16:42

focus. Into the.

16:45

Steel. Plant located

16:47

in Fontana. Which was ultimately.

16:50

Also eradicated from the planet.

16:52

And, uh, this is where the.

16:54

California motor Speedway now stands. But

16:57

talking about Eagle mountain. Efforts

17:00

were made to try to revive the town

17:02

to try and. Turn. That

17:04

once quite active shopping

17:06

center. Into something else. Proposals.

17:10

We're made some want

17:12

to take. That plot of land

17:15

and turn it into a landfill. But

17:17

they seem to have settled upon.

17:19

A green energy

17:21

facility. That. It's supposed

17:24

to be open within the next couple of

17:26

years. So while.

17:28

School children are no longer.

17:30

Playing. Kickball in the street.

17:33

It is comforting to know. That

17:35

rather than just have this.

17:37

Massive. Mining area. Turned

17:40

into a landfill. Efforts

17:42

are underway to try

17:44

and. Make a contribution.

17:46

From what once stood

17:48

and was known as Eagle

17:51

mountain. Number

17:53

four. Ballarat's,

17:56

this is within

17:58

the bounds of death valley

18:00

national park. I mentioned

18:02

it on our death valley episode.

18:05

But I thought it bared, repeating. And

18:07

inclusion on our list of ghost

18:09

towns. There is a quite

18:12

ghostly feeling in Ballarat.

18:15

Where once stood. Seven

18:17

different saloons. Uh, church.

18:20

Uh, jail. Well, now

18:22

the jail is actually still there. There's

18:25

a convenience store. I

18:27

put the word convenience in quotes

18:30

because. Well, it's not a seven 11,

18:32

shall we say? Also, you have.

18:35

A makeshift history

18:37

museum in the town. And

18:39

in general, when you get this far out

18:41

into the death valley, national

18:43

park, Mostly everything

18:45

seems a bit ghostly. A scene

18:48

from the iconic. 1960s,

18:50

counterculture film, easy rider was

18:52

shot here. It's maybe.

18:55

30 miles. Away from Barker

18:57

ranch. We're members of the Manson

18:59

family fled after.

19:02

They're compound at Spahn ranch

19:04

was rated. And that.

19:07

Jail. I mentioned. If you happen

19:09

to make it out to Ballarat. I recommend.

19:12

Stepping foot inside that jail.

19:14

Thinking about. The intoxicated

19:17

folks who were most likely sent

19:20

there on overnight trips.

19:22

And then ask yourself where exactly

19:24

did these folks use the

19:26

restroom? I'll leave it there.

19:29

It's Ballarat at number four.

19:33

And number three Kelso. Like

19:35

the Ashton Kutcher character from that seventies

19:38

show. This is.

19:40

Way out in the Mojave desert.

19:42

This is actually located inside

19:45

the. Mojave valley nature

19:47

preserve. This once

19:49

acted as a train

19:52

Depot. A stop.

19:54

Along the actress in Topeka.

19:57

Santa Fe. Railway stop

20:00

or they're blind between Utah

20:02

and Kingman, Arizona. Engineers

20:06

and. The city planners. Figured,

20:08

this was probably a good

20:10

stopping point, a good resting place

20:13

for folks to exit the

20:15

train for a little while, grab something to

20:17

eat. Stretch their legs before

20:20

resuming their travels. But

20:22

as. The automobile

20:24

came into Vogue. And passenger

20:26

trains. We're not used

20:29

quite as frequently as they once had

20:31

been oh, business

20:34

dried up. Isn't that a common

20:36

theme about business drying up and then

20:38

the location become a ghost town. Strange

20:41

how that works. But here.

20:43

You do have the opportunity to see the

20:45

old Kelso Depot. Pretty

20:48

well-preserved, uh, there's a visitor

20:50

center there. A gift shop. And

20:53

of course a restaurant. Nearby.

20:56

We recommend exploring. The awesome

20:58

Kelso, sand dunes. And staying

21:01

within. The Mojave nature

21:03

preserve. To check out

21:05

all the wonderful desert

21:08

creatures that zoos tend

21:10

to overlook. And

21:13

number two, the town of

21:15

Amboy. This is located.

21:18

Surprise surprise. In the

21:20

Eastern region of the state.

21:23

Outside of needles

21:26

outside of Barstow. And

21:28

boy, it was also discussed on a prior episode

21:30

of living in the sprawl. It was mentioned

21:33

when we talked about the movie, the Hitcher

21:35

from 1986 with Rutger Hauer.

21:38

Majority of the film was shot in

21:40

Amboy. In and around.

21:43

The iconic Roy's motel

21:45

and cafe. And boy. Was

21:47

a route 66. Town.

21:50

When route 66. Came

21:52

into fruition in the 1930s.

21:55

A whole crop. Or

21:57

series of businesses. Came

21:59

into existence to cater to

22:01

travelers exploring. The famed.

22:04

Passageway. Taking. Drivers.

22:07

Through California and into.

22:10

Nevada or Arizona. The

22:12

need. For places like Amboy

22:15

to exist was directly

22:18

born. Out of the creation of route 66.

22:20

Unfortunately. When the 40

22:23

freeway. Was built in the 1970s

22:25

and route 66 was

22:28

essentially phased out of existence. There

22:30

weren't. Nearly as many travelers.

22:33

Passing by the town of Amboy.

22:36

So as of this recording, Roy's.

22:38

Motel and cafe does

22:41

still exist. And it's got

22:43

autographed pictures on the wall from

22:45

people like Anthony Hopkins and Harrison

22:47

Ford. And according to Yelp

22:49

reviews, some really

22:52

lovely. And helpful staff

22:54

members. You can stop.

22:56

At Roy's motel and cafe

22:58

for yourself. Imagine

23:01

you're a young C Thomas Howell.

23:03

Chatting it up with. Jennifer,

23:05

Jason Leigh's waitress. As

23:07

you both try to avoid. Being

23:10

snared in. By that dastardly

23:12

Hitcher. Or just what life was probably

23:14

like when route 66 was a

23:16

major thing in the United

23:19

States. In any case,

23:21

and boy. Offers. Not only

23:23

a trip to the past. But something a little

23:25

bit extra nearby. There

23:27

are two. Really phenomenal craters

23:30

that you should check out. The Amboy

23:32

crater. Is really a

23:35

sight to behold. You can

23:37

get right in. Where Labo

23:39

once poured out. You

23:41

don't have to go all the way to Hawaii to get

23:43

this experience. You can get it. In

23:45

the middle of the Mojave desert in.

23:48

The former town now, ghost

23:51

Called ambush. I

23:54

never one on our list

23:56

of the 10 must-see ghost

23:58

towns to be found in the

24:00

Southern half of the golden state. Calico.

24:03

Located just outside.

24:06

Of your Mo. This

24:08

is the best preserved ghost

24:10

town to be found anywhere

24:12

in the Southern California sprawl. Uh,

24:14

great. Way to experience it. Without

24:17

having to plan an entire day

24:19

around driving to the middle of the desert to check

24:21

out a ghost Would be

24:24

to incorporate it. On a drive.

24:26

From Southern California. Into

24:28

Nevada. Las Vegas.

24:31

In 1881. reserve

24:35

of silver was uncovered in

24:37

the nearby mountains, which were named.

24:39

Calico. As their

24:42

appearance. Their color.

24:44

Appeared. Too early.

24:46

Visitors. In the vein of.

24:49

A Calico cat. When silver

24:51

was found. As so often the tale

24:53

a town came shortly

24:55

afterward. Over 3,500

24:58

people once lived in Calico.

25:00

And at the height. Of its heyday. Calico

25:03

really was the epicenter

25:05

of. Silver mining in the state

25:07

of California. Actually.

25:09

Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger declared

25:12

Calico as the official silver

25:15

ghost town. Of California.

25:17

Because booty was already declared

25:20

the official ghost town. So. The

25:22

governor had to include a modifying

25:25

word. In order to distinguish

25:27

Calico. From other ghost

25:29

towns. Here visitors.

25:31

Can interact with the past. They

25:33

could pan. For fool's gold.

25:36

Head into a saloon. Or just

25:38

survey the grounds and walk

25:40

from one end of the town, to the other,

25:43

all the while. Imagining

25:45

what life was like around at the turn

25:47

of the century. It was also in Calico.

25:50

That Walter knot was inspired.

25:53

To create Knott's Berry farm. Walter

25:55

not actually literally bought

25:58

the town of Calico. At one point

26:00

before his death, he did bequeath

26:03

Calico back. To the county

26:05

of San Bernardino. But he literally

26:07

owned the town of Calico for

26:09

a number of years. And this gave him

26:11

the idea. Four. The motif

26:14

and a lot of the themes. That would

26:16

come to define his theme park.

26:18

Knott's Berry Calico has

26:21

the. Chotchkies souvenirs.

26:24

It has all of the things that you

26:27

might expect from a ghost

26:29

town trafficking in. Memories

26:32

of a completely bygone era. But it

26:34

does. So with a charming. A

26:36

truly authentic. Veneer.

26:38

Calico's a special place. It's

26:41

not everywhere in the United States

26:43

that you can visit. The town. That

26:45

gave. Someone, the idea

26:48

for an immensely successful amusement

26:50

park. And that's going

26:52

to do it for another. Episode of

26:54

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28:15

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28:20

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28:24

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