0:00

Hi, I'm Lauren

0:02

Garoni. And

0:25

I'm Chelsea Feralas. And this might be

0:27

the last Every Outfit Podcast episode because

0:30

I might infect Chelsea with my illness.

0:33

Okay, I came over and Lauren is like

0:35

violently ill and trying to hide it from

0:37

me. I'm like, bitch, come on, we could

0:40

have done this over Zoom. And by violently

0:42

ill, it's my voice is a little nasally

0:44

and I coughed once. I sneezed once as

0:46

well. Okay, well, we'll see how this shakes

0:49

out. I love

0:51

you. I'm willing to take the risk,

0:53

especially for our beloved listeners. Although

0:55

I think I might have brought

0:57

some bad energy into the space

0:59

myself because I am like so

1:01

fucking sick of these cyclists on

1:04

Mulholland. It should be illegal. It

1:06

really should. No, Lauren, this man,

1:08

no helmet, air pods in

1:10

and driving over the line so no

1:12

one could overtake him. We're going to

1:14

sound like assholes. But for those that

1:16

don't live in Los Angeles, it is

1:18

not a friendly city for cyclists. And

1:21

also, I have never

1:23

seen worse behaved bicyclists because

1:25

they don't share the road.

1:28

And also, here's the thing. They want to be treated

1:30

like cars, right? They want to they want

1:32

to ride in the middle of the lane

1:34

just like they're a car. But then they

1:36

will blow through a fucking stoplight as if

1:38

it's not pertinent to them. Exactly. And

1:40

it's like, okay, I get it. If

1:43

you're wearing air pods on Mulholland, like

1:45

you have a death wish and that's

1:47

fine. But like, don't bring me into

1:49

it. Don't put me in some like

1:51

21 gram situation here. Well, I was

1:53

going to start the podcast with a

1:55

pretty major celebrity sighting or supermodel sighting

1:57

that I had at the time. the

2:00

drug store the other day. Who did

2:02

you see? So I was getting my

2:04

flu and COVID shot. Great time to

2:06

have gotten that. Yeah,

2:09

clearly it worked. And I'm going

2:11

to the register to pay for a couple of

2:13

things that I've gotten. And I'm coming down an

2:16

aisle and I meet at

2:18

the same time this woman who's waiting

2:20

in the line and I get

2:22

there first. I look to my left and it's supermodel

2:25

Amber Velletta with

2:28

her Reynolds rap. But I'm like, I guess I

2:30

kind of cut her off. I'm like, you know

2:32

what? You go ahead of me. And

2:34

she just turns to me and she

2:36

goes, there really should be self checkout.

2:38

And I'm like, yes, Amber Velletta, there

2:40

should be self checkout. Okay. So are

2:42

we now just buying Reynolds rap from

2:44

now on full brand loyalty? I'm influenced.

2:47

Absolutely. I've been influenced by Amber Velletta.

2:49

No, I more was just like, what

2:52

are you doing at the Valley? Amber

2:54

Velletta? So chic. I love her. She

2:56

really is so chic. I

2:58

was like, do I say I love

3:00

her work? Is that vapid? No,

3:02

it's not vapid. Come on. She's one

3:04

of the greats. I didn't. I fumbled

3:06

the bag. Maybe I'll see her again.

3:09

We need a second part to the

3:11

Apple TV Supermodels docuseries. That's just like

3:13

all the girls that are the tier

3:15

below them. Yeah. And it's just like

3:17

the sub header is supermodels never die.

3:19

I'd watch. So shall we start the

3:21

show with a bit of end just like

3:23

that news? Christmas come early and just like

3:25

that isn't coming back till 2025. I'm

3:28

excited for it to come back, but

3:30

I do think a little bit of

3:32

a break would be good because they

3:34

put out the first two seasons so

3:36

fast. And by the time the show

3:38

actually comes back, maybe Wyatt will have

3:40

gone to college so Aiden and Carrie

3:42

can just like resume their romance. Yeah,

3:44

we didn't talk about this, but a

3:46

few weeks ago, I sent you that

3:49

all of the writers had met at

3:51

the Cara hotel. I noticed in

3:53

Los Feliz for a writers room three

3:55

dinner and it's all the same writers.

3:57

So we can't really expect a severe.

4:00

vibe shift for season three. No, but

4:02

we can count on Samantha Irby probably

4:04

writing the best episodes of the season.

4:07

On that we can rely. Let her

4:09

deal with the Aiden stuff. If he's

4:11

coming back, is it gonna

4:13

jump five years? I guess what I could

4:16

say is I'm genuinely curious how they're gonna

4:18

handle the story. Yeah, I feel like they'll

4:20

make her get in a good relationship with

4:22

someone else and then Aiden will come back.

4:25

Well, my line was just make it Jon

4:27

Hamm, but I see that he is Jennifer

4:29

Aniston's boyfriend on the morning show. Oh,

4:31

really? He can't be both boyfriends. Yeah,

4:33

I want to get back into the

4:35

morning show and people keep DMing us

4:37

imploring us to get into the morning

4:40

show. But I just can't do that

4:42

COVID season. If there's a way to

4:44

transition from season one to season three

4:46

without watching season two, I won. There

4:48

is. It's called just jumping to season

4:50

three and watching the season two recap

4:52

that I'm sure they have before episode

4:54

one. Okay, you're right. I'm stupid.

4:56

In other news, Cynthia Nixon was on

4:58

The View this week promoting the new

5:01

season of the Gilded Age. Okay, before

5:03

we jump into this interview, I've never

5:05

watched an episode of the Gilded Age.

5:07

And the only time I've seen anything

5:09

about it is the trailers. And

5:11

this one clip that they played before

5:13

she came on, it seems like a very

5:16

odd show, but everyone loves it. We should

5:18

be watching it. And by everyone, you mean

5:20

the tens of people watching the show. Lots

5:22

of people watch The Gilded Age. We just

5:25

don't watch it. Who are these people?

5:27

I want their names. I don't know. Just

5:29

people. People from different

5:31

places. Different places.

5:34

She's also promoting a play that

5:36

she was in. I was very intrigued

5:38

by the tension filled conversation, not about

5:40

the topic you would think it would

5:43

be, but about live versus fake trees,

5:45

which I felt like mirrored our own

5:47

tension filled conversations of like live and

5:50

fake trees. Right. Because Cynthia was very

5:52

pro real tree and Sunny was like

5:54

very, very pro fake tree, like to

5:56

a weird degree. And I am a

5:59

fake tree. Chelsea is a live

6:01

tree person, but I would never go the depths that

6:03

Sunny went into about like just get the real tree

6:05

spray and I think it was Whoopi that was like,

6:07

it was Whoopi or Joy? I think it was Joy

6:09

which was like weird for her to have a steak

6:11

and this was like then it all gets in your

6:14

lungs. Like Joy,

6:16

did you have someone who got

6:18

cancer from spraying real tree smell

6:20

on their fake tree? Cynthia also

6:22

revealed that she completed four days

6:24

of her five-day hunger strike because

6:27

I guess she had to work on one of the days and

6:29

I'm like what did you have to eat some

6:31

like pheasant on the Gilded Age or something? Crapty

6:34

was just too tempting. Of

6:37

course she talked about wanting a ceasefire and

6:40

Joy like if there was a button that

6:42

Joy could press to eject this woman out

6:45

of her seat and off of the show

6:47

she would have done it. I'm surprised that

6:49

in 25 years of the

6:51

view they haven't added that as a

6:53

feature on to the show. Could you

6:55

imagine if that existed during the Elizabeth

6:57

Hasselbeck Rosie O'Donnell days? Oh, it would

6:59

have been incredible. Yeah, I feel like

7:01

Sunny was vibing with Cynthia a bit

7:03

because her whole struggle on the view

7:06

lately is that like no one lets

7:08

her finish a sentence, but watching this

7:10

just reminded me that I really just

7:12

want someone on that show

7:14

who has a different perspective than

7:16

the rest of them. And you

7:18

don't mean Democrat Republican. You're talking

7:20

about like a Marianne Williamson energy.

7:22

Either get someone that's like Marjorie

7:24

Taylor Greene or Marianne Williamson, but

7:26

we need someone with a different

7:29

viewpoint in the mix because it's not

7:31

really that fun to listen to them

7:33

talk when they all have the same

7:35

opinion about like the broader issue, right?

7:37

Say gun control, reproductive freedom.

7:40

They really just argue about the minor

7:42

details of everything. And that's becoming tiresome

7:44

to you. I think what I'm saying

7:46

is that Cynthia Nixon either needs to

7:48

permanently join this panel or we need

7:50

to get Rosie O'Donnell back or just

7:52

rotate them out. I mean, it is

7:54

working for the Daily Show. It seems

7:56

like not replacing Trevor Noah and just

7:59

having a never- ending parade of ghettos.

8:01

I'm fine with it. I just think that

8:03

we need some new perspectives on that show,

8:05

regardless of what they are or if I

8:07

agree with them. They should make you the

8:09

producer. What was his name? He's dead now,

8:11

right? Bill Getty. Bill Getty. May

8:14

he rest in peace. Do we want to discuss the

8:16

fact that George Santos is on Cameo and I tried

8:18

to get us one and I couldn't? Well, how hard

8:20

did you try? At the

8:22

beginning of the week, I saw on Twitter, I will

8:24

never call a DEX, that George Santos

8:26

was on Cameo and they were going for $75.

8:30

I was like, well, clearly that's not real. Then the

8:32

next day, I started to see more Cameos and I

8:34

was like, oh, it is for

8:36

real. I went on the website, I think it was

8:38

like Tuesday morning, they were selling for $250. I

8:43

was like, this is a worthwhile business expense. It was like

8:45

275 slots left. I

8:49

was like, you know what? Let me think about what

8:51

I want him to say to Chell and I. When

8:53

I came back in the afternoon, they were sold out.

8:55

They were briefly available this morning, but now for

8:57

$400. And I'm sorry,

9:00

it's just too much for a joke. I

9:02

agree. I think $250

9:04

is my flinch point for a George

9:06

Santos Cameo. But what I also learned

9:08

is that I've always vowed to you

9:10

when I got like a fuck you

9:12

money check that I was going to

9:14

get you a Caitlyn Jenner Cameo because

9:17

they're $2,000 and I've sadly

9:19

learned Caitlyn Jenner is no longer on

9:21

the platform. Yeah, maybe her Cameo requests

9:23

slow down, you know? Can

9:25

I play you some of the George Santos Cameos?

9:27

Have you seen them? No, I

9:30

have not. Favorite T.S. song is definitely

9:32

going to be trouble. I

9:35

knew you were trouble when you walked

9:37

in. That's me.

9:39

Bye. Okay, money well spent.

9:41

I hope that was the $75 tier. He's

9:44

singing for his dinner, you know? So

9:47

I think that's a great way to

9:49

transition. Taylor Swift I saw was Time's

9:51

Person of the Year. That was a

9:53

shock because while she has been inescapable

9:55

this year, they never give this to

9:58

entertainers. It's always like world leaders. or

10:00

whoever happens to be the Pope at

10:02

that time. Yeah, last year was Vladimir

10:05

Zelensky. This year it's Taylor Swift. I

10:07

mean, the time person of the year

10:09

is kind of the prominent known person

10:12

version of like the Forbes 30 Under

10:14

30. Like this is orchestrated by a

10:16

publicist. I don't know if that's the

10:19

case because it's usually

10:21

world leaders. And if it's not,

10:23

it's like a group of people

10:25

like American soldiers or whistleblowers, or

10:27

they did that cover a few

10:29

years ago that was like the

10:31

silence breakers when what they really meant

10:34

was the Me Too movement. But remember

10:36

that Taylor Swift was on that cover

10:38

as well. Right. So this is technically

10:40

the second time that she's

10:42

been on the cover of this issue.

10:45

I mean, it feels like this is

10:47

a punctuation at the end of a

10:49

really great year because I feel like

10:52

she hasn't done a ton of interviews

10:54

this past year, as noted by our

10:56

favorite Taffy and her profile

10:58

or her non profile of Taylor Swift. I was

11:01

just excited to see the shoot because we

11:03

never see her like with a good hair

11:05

and makeup and styling team. Oh, that's interesting

11:07

that you say that. That's how low the

11:09

bar is, I think with Taylor Swift because

11:11

I thought you were gonna comment on how

11:13

boring this photo shoot is. It's not

11:15

supposed to be a Vogue cover. It's

11:17

the time person of the year. I

11:20

don't think this is the time to

11:22

come out in the Gucci gown or

11:24

the Mugler cat suit. Unsurprisingly, my favorite

11:26

look was her and

11:28

the top was a tuxedo and then she

11:30

was in jeans. Or as someone on Instagram

11:32

said, young tar, which

11:34

is exactly what that looked like. I have

11:37

noted some things I found interesting about the

11:39

article, but I wanna hear, what did you

11:41

take away from the article? I honestly

11:43

have no takeaways from the

11:45

article aside from her admission

11:47

that her song Mastermind was

11:50

inspired by Phantom Thread. That

11:52

blew my mind. Now when

11:54

I listen to that song, I

11:56

will just imagine Daniel Day-Lewis vomiting and

11:58

shitting. My favorite. is the person

12:01

who wrote the article in explaining this

12:03

is like, she tells me that she

12:05

wrote that song after watching the Paul

12:08

Thomas Anderson film Phantom Thread, which spoiler

12:10

culminates in the reveal of a fast

12:12

layered manipulation. It's like, that's not a

12:14

spoiler. Like, what? I've

12:17

seen Phantom Thread. I'm like, what does

12:19

that even mean? She's poisoning her husband.

12:22

Spoiler. And that's what Taylor

12:25

Swift sat in the theater or let's be

12:27

on the center home theater and watch Daniel

12:29

Day-Lewis vomit poisonous mushrooms and was like,

12:31

you know what, I think there's a pop

12:33

song in this. Yeah,

12:36

I'm just sad that there weren't more poisoning

12:38

metaphors in the song itself. For the first

12:40

time in many years, Taylor Swift is talking

12:42

about the Kim Kardashian Kanye West

12:44

leaking of the phone call where Taylor Swift

12:47

was like, yeah, you can use me and

12:49

you can say that lyric and famous, which

12:51

was, I still think

12:53

Taylor and me might have sex, but

12:55

he never said the second line, which

12:58

is I made that bitch famous, which

13:00

clearly Taylor Swift wouldn't have been cool

13:02

with and been like, no, you don't

13:04

have my permission. Yeah, I'm not surprised

13:06

that she brought that up again, because

13:09

it clearly is such a traumatic and

13:11

central experience for her. But I did

13:13

find it interesting that she basically said

13:15

that she had lost her career as

13:18

a result of that. And then the

13:20

interviewer was like, girl, what? Not

13:22

to her face, but yeah, I was

13:24

going to bring this up because I

13:26

think a barrier to entry I have

13:29

with Taylor Swift is this self

13:31

mythologizing that everyone hates her. And

13:33

I understand as the interviewer does,

13:36

I understand that that's how she

13:38

feels. But that's not really

13:40

what happened. Like no one that

13:42

was a Taylor Swift fan was

13:45

moved by that Kim Kardashian video. She

13:47

has such a large fan base. It

13:49

doesn't matter what she does, or if

13:51

the public at large cares or not.

13:53

But she's like, but it's not

13:56

like, Oh, this is how I feel. Her

13:58

literal quote is make no mistake. my career

14:00

was taken from me. By who?

14:02

You didn't get dropped by your

14:04

label and your management and like

14:07

what? Your sponsors? Yeah, she's like,

14:09

I had to go into hiding for a

14:11

year. It's like, okay, one, you went on

14:13

a whirlwind European vacation with Tom Hiddleston the

14:16

summer of 2016 and

14:18

you released Reputation the next year.

14:20

Look, don't get me wrong, I

14:22

feel empathy for anyone who is

14:25

kind of cyber bullied in

14:27

that way on a mass scale.

14:29

I think that is a lot

14:31

more traumatic than people want to

14:33

admit. Oh, God, yeah. Or that

14:35

regular people, I suppose, want to

14:37

admit. So it's like, I understand

14:39

that that carries an extreme level

14:41

of trauma, even for a famous

14:43

person with all this privilege. Yes,

14:46

and then I did appreciate that the journalist as

14:48

the article ends is like, here Swift has told

14:50

me a story about redemption, about rising and falling

14:53

only to rise again, a hero's journey. I do

14:55

not say to her in our conversation that it

14:57

did not always look that way from the outside.

14:59

But for example, when Reputations leads single, Look What

15:01

You Made Me Do, reached number one on the

15:04

charts or when the album sold 1.3 million

15:06

albums in the first week second to only

15:08

her other album 1989. She's

15:11

never not had a sold out

15:13

concert since she began. She's also

15:16

had pretty much always critical acclaim.

15:19

Like the most she can muster about Reputation

15:21

is like, some people were skeptical. It's like,

15:23

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15:26

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18:05

Brockway wedding in our shared Google doc and you

18:08

were like, I'm not sure if you've heard of

18:10

this. Exactly. What kind of

18:12

rock do you think I live under? I

18:15

mean, I know that you probably at the

18:17

very least knew about it through Tats and

18:19

she and I share a TikTok addiction. Even

18:22

though I'm not on TikTok all day

18:24

long, I'm looking at no less than

18:26

10 TikToks a day just because people

18:28

send them to me constantly. Usually you.

18:31

So I can't escape any of this shit.

18:33

Alright, for those of you who may live

18:35

under a rock, the internet has anointed a

18:37

new it girl or at least that's what

18:39

some chick named Malin Brockway would like you

18:42

to think with her recent lavish nuptials that

18:44

went viral on Instagram. Maybe

18:46

you don't know this Chelsea, but Madeleine

18:48

is a Texas car dealership heiress. I

18:50

did not know there was such a

18:53

thing that her parents sold and based

18:55

on an article, they sold two dealerships

18:57

for anywhere between a hundred to seven

18:59

hundred million dollars. Okay, but that still

19:01

doesn't seem like a proportionate amount of

19:04

money to this wedding. This seems like

19:06

a billionaires only situation. Oh, absolutely. So

19:08

Madeleine had a multi day Parisian wedding

19:10

that saw guests spend the night at

19:12

Versailles, had a welcome dinner at the

19:15

Paris Opera House where guests were serenaded

19:17

by ball gown wearing violinist and had

19:19

such an insane amount of flowers, it

19:21

would make Jeff Latham weep. And

19:23

a wedding reception that featured views of the

19:26

Eiffel Tower and a performance by Maroon Can

19:29

you imagine how much did she spend on

19:31

her wedding? When I first saw this wedding

19:33

on Twitter, someone flippantly posted like, so this

19:35

is what a 59 million dollar wedding looks

19:37

like and that's the number everyone's run with.

19:40

It was probably tens of millions of dollars,

19:42

but it wasn't 60 million

19:44

dollars. Lauren did her due

19:46

diligence and personally contacted all of

19:48

the vendors. No, no, no, there

19:50

are legit TikTok accounts that are

19:52

dedicated to figuring out how expensive certain

19:54

weddings are and they do do the due diligence

19:57

that I refuse to do and figure out how

19:59

much the vendors. So like

20:01

two of these accounts that is probably

20:03

20 to $30 million, because they flew

20:05

everyone out, put everyone up, rented Versailles

20:07

for a few days. Also

20:09

can we talk about the Bachelorette party, which

20:11

was its own thing. I was looking for

20:14

wedding planners and was sort of horrified

20:17

by everything I was seeing. And

20:19

I came upon a wedding

20:21

planner who showed a

20:24

bachelorette party she had organized. And

20:27

it was a Marie Antoinette themed bachelorette

20:29

party and Ami Giri. And I pulled

20:31

Paul and I was like, look at

20:33

this fucking thing. Guys, it was Matt

20:35

Lindbrock with his bachelorette party. It's so

20:37

funny because that hotel, which is, where

20:40

is it? Utah.

20:43

It's like this minimalist luxury hotel

20:45

in Utah that is thousands of

20:47

nights, three night minimum celebrity favorite.

20:49

Oh, if people are listening to

20:52

this podcast, they've definitely seen it

20:54

through Kardashian Jenner Instagram posts. For

20:56

sure. But this was interesting

20:58

because all of this wasn't very much at

21:00

odds with the aesthetic of that place, right?

21:03

Like the amount of flowers and shit that

21:05

they're bringing in. But the thing I was

21:07

really struck by is that there

21:10

were only like no more than 12 table settings

21:13

at all of these dinners. They rented

21:15

out that entire hotel and did all

21:17

this shit for no more than a

21:19

dozen people. It's become clear that Malin

21:21

Brockway was using her insane wedding to

21:23

launch a social media career. I

21:25

think she looked at like a Nicola

21:28

Pelt or Sophia Richie who have careers,

21:30

I guess, because their weddings were glamorous.

21:32

Certainly Sophia Richie got on a lot

21:34

of people's radars because her wedding was

21:36

just so fabulous. But it was kind

21:38

of working. Like her following was growing.

21:40

People were writing articles about it. We're

21:43

talking about it now. It completely worked.

21:45

Good for her. Yes. But

21:48

then suddenly last week, she deleted her

21:50

TikTok account, deleted all of her other

21:52

social accounts and no one could figure

21:54

out why until people started digging into

21:56

the groom. Turns out her now husband.

21:58

and Jacob Legrand was indicted in March

22:01

on three counts of aggravated assault on

22:03

a public servant for shooting at cops

22:05

and could face life in prison. Oops.

22:07

Why was he shooting at the cops?

22:09

Do we know? Some kind of domestic

22:12

disturbance. Or was he just like shooting

22:14

off guns at his house and like

22:16

the cops came over or something? Cause

22:18

it seems like that's something that the

22:20

ultra wealthy do. When I heard about

22:23

this, I couldn't help but think of

22:25

the last season of you. Right? Like

22:27

whatever this is, it's probably a lot like

22:29

that. Very salt burn coded is what

22:32

they say. Salt burn ass. You know what?

22:34

You can't wait to talk about salt burn.

22:36

Do you want to talk about salt burn?

22:38

Sure. When we left things last week, you

22:40

were like, I'm not going to watch it.

22:42

And I was like, it's okay. I'll go

22:45

see it and I'll tell you about it

22:47

because I'm intrigued by the internet hatred of

22:49

this movie. And then I was

22:51

delighted to find out you went and saw

22:53

salt burn. So Chell, what did you think?

22:55

I was thoroughly entertained by salt burn. I'm

22:57

not hating on salt burn at all. I

22:59

know when I saw just how many people

23:01

dislike this film, I was like, fuck, I'm

23:04

probably going to be okay with it. Which

23:06

is kind of a bummer because I was

23:08

quite looking forward to disliking a film along

23:10

with everyone else. But I don't know what

23:13

other people thought going into the film. Cause

23:16

for the previous week, I've been seeing

23:18

people take videos of themselves leaving the

23:20

film utterly destroyed. It's like by what

23:22

though? Because they're grossed out by it?

23:25

A fucka named Ben Carpenter on our

23:27

Patreon, I think put it best, which

23:29

is salt burn is basic straight

23:31

person shocking, not queer and or generally

23:33

cultured shocking. And that might be the

23:35

best description of this film. That's true.

23:37

When I was watching the movie and

23:39

the audience was reacting, Tat leaned over

23:41

to me and was like, these people

23:43

are a bunch of fucking prudes. And

23:45

that's what it is, right? Like

23:48

the bathtub scene that everyone is so obsessed

23:50

with being disgusted by, I'm like, I'm

23:52

sorry. I would do the exact same thing

23:55

if I was in that man's position. I'm

23:57

not letting that perfectly good bathwater go to

23:59

waste. Uh

24:02

oh guys, we're about to get into

24:04

spoiler territory for Saltburn and then May-December.

24:07

If you would like to not be spoiled, just

24:09

scroll down to our episode description, we will give

24:11

you the time stamps so you may stay spoiler

24:13

free. But I can say that the movies are

24:15

great and you guys should go see them both.

24:20

When I thought you weren't going to see

24:22

the film, my non-spoiler logline, and to answer

24:24

your question from last week about how hot

24:26

Jacob Elordi is, he's so hot that you

24:28

would kill an entire family for him. And

24:30

you can't even judge him for that. I

24:33

was not the biggest fan of Promising Young

24:35

Woman mostly for the ending and I do

24:37

think that there's a little bit of a

24:39

logic gap with why Perry Keogan is doing

24:42

all of this, but like I don't care.

24:44

You know that he's going to kill someone.

24:46

Like it can't be him dying, you know,

24:48

because that would be too much like Promising

24:51

Young Woman. So it's kind of

24:53

evident to me that someone's going down, you

24:55

just don't really know who. Well that's my

24:57

thing about people being shocked from this film

25:00

which is like, what did people think

25:02

this movie was? Because I went in knowing

25:05

that it was going to be some sort

25:07

of take on the talented Mr. Ripley set

25:09

for reasons unknown in 2006. Did

25:12

you know this was a period piece? Oh

25:14

god, does that count as a period piece now?

25:16

That's so depressing. Yeah baby, 18 years ago. I

25:19

don't know. I think also the critical

25:21

response to it, it's like people are acting like

25:23

they thought it was supposed to be like Citizen

25:25

Kane or 2001 Space

25:27

Odyssey or some shit and it's just

25:30

like this movie. Yeah, I think that

25:32

this film is actually campier than May-December,

25:34

which we'll talk about after this. I don't know

25:37

if I agree with that, but it definitely was

25:39

campy for sure. I get

25:41

it. I think that sometimes when

25:43

things are clearly

25:46

meant to shock you, people can be

25:48

resentful of that. I definitely think that

25:50

Saltburn falls into that category, but the

25:52

thing about it is, is that it

25:55

actually succeeded in shocking people. Not

25:57

of. No, it even shocked me. Maybe

25:59

not ever. Everything shocked me in the way that

26:02

it might shock others, but the grave

26:04

scene, that shocked me. That was like,

26:06

passolini level of fucked up, and I

26:08

did not see that coming. Let's go

26:10

through what I will deem the three

26:12

most shocking things in the film. I

26:14

would say the first one is what

26:16

I will call the vampire pussy eating

26:18

scene. Okay. It's a

26:20

period film in two ways, Chelsea. Oh

26:22

my god. I guess for people who

26:24

are still listening to this, even though

26:26

we're getting into spoilers, but aren't sure

26:28

what the movie is about, Barry Keogan

26:31

is going to Oxford. I can't

26:33

remember any of the character's names. I'm just going to

26:35

call the actors names. Barry Keogan is a

26:37

poor student who's going to Oxford.

26:40

He becomes enamored with Jacob Elordi.

26:42

He gets brought into his social

26:45

circle, and after his

26:47

father passes away, Jacob Elordi

26:49

invites him to stay for the

26:51

summer at his family's estate,

26:53

Saltburn. Where hijinks ensue. Yes,

26:55

where after one dinner, he meets

26:58

Jacob Elordi's sister in the

27:00

garden and eats

27:02

her out despite her having

27:04

her period. Sex is disgusting,

27:06

but that rarely translates to

27:09

cinema. In movies, sex is

27:11

very sanitized and stylized in

27:14

a way that it just isn't in reality. So

27:16

to show something like this is just unique.

27:18

Yeah, I mean, as Rosamund Pike says, I

27:20

was a lesbian for a little bit. It

27:22

was too wet for me. The

27:25

second most shocking scene that everyone's talking about

27:27

is the fact that Barry

27:30

Keogan's character overhears Jacob Elordi jerking

27:32

off in a bathtub in their

27:34

shared bathroom, goes into the bathtub

27:36

and sucks up the, what you

27:38

imagine is the cummy bathwater. Ew,

27:43

cummy bath... Don't say it like that. Look,

27:45

you'd have to. You'd have to. And if you

27:48

wouldn't, then I guess you're not as big of

27:50

a Jacob Elordi fan as I am. When

27:52

you say you would have to, you're literally

27:55

like, I would have to, Lauren. There was

27:57

a great letterbox review that was like, for

27:59

sure. For people who are mad

28:01

that they didn't eat the peach and call me

28:03

by your name, have I got a movie for

28:05

you? I guess my

28:08

expectation was that he truly, I don't

28:10

know that we were gonna like see

28:12

a Jack-U-Lit. I didn't expect it to

28:14

just truly be bathwater, but I guess.

28:16

Is that so much grosser than just

28:18

like sucking someone's dick? Like think about

28:20

it. It's not, right? I mean, maybe

28:22

putting your tongue in a drain. Okay,

28:24

that's true. I would not go as

28:26

far as to like rim the drain.

28:28

He was in a dark place, clearly.

28:30

Jacob Elordi passes away and maybe

28:33

the most shocking scene of the

28:35

film occurs, which is Barry

28:37

Keogan is at his grave.

28:39

It's raining. He takes his shirt off. He's

28:41

crying. And where my mind went to was

28:44

like, oh, he's gonna jerk

28:46

off on the dirt. Yeah, nope. He

28:49

fucks the dirt. And I

28:51

know that it's supposed to be shocking,

28:53

but my mind just went to American

28:55

Pie. From the perspective of like the

28:57

actor, it's like that was played very

28:59

seriously. Like he's sobbing. Like it was

29:02

not comedic in that sense, but it

29:04

was comedic. I looked around to the

29:06

people around me and everyone was just

29:08

sitting there with like frozen smiles on

29:10

their face, like not knowing what to

29:12

do. I mean, that's pretty cool. What

29:14

I don't see people talking about in

29:16

regards to this film is what I

29:18

think is the biggest twist and

29:21

its biggest commentary point, which is the

29:23

biggest sin in modern life isn't being

29:25

poor, but being middle-class. Because

29:28

that is the twist of the film is that he isn't

29:30

poor. The Barry Keogan character

29:32

made all of this up because he

29:34

knows he would be more sympathetic. There's

29:37

nothing more boring than living a comfortable

29:39

life. It's all about

29:41

extremes. Although when you look at that

29:43

level of wealth, it's like comparatively like

29:46

he is in poverty compared to the

29:48

salt burn wealth. But of course he's

29:50

not actually. He has every privilege in

29:52

the world. Yes, and his father's not dead

29:55

and his mother isn't a crack whore. It's

29:57

not the lie, it's the coverup. And that

29:59

was... was the moment I was like,

30:01

he's gonna twist the wheel as Jacob

30:03

alordi is driving back because Jacob

30:06

alordi is trying to do this great thing

30:08

and reunite him with his mother who he

30:11

intercepts a call from, on Barry

30:13

Keogan's birthday drives him to

30:15

his hometown and Jacob alordi

30:17

realizes, Oh, you're not poor,

30:20

I fell for this lie. And I was like, okay,

30:22

this is where like Barry Keogan on the drive back

30:24

is going to take the wheel and crash, he's gonna

30:26

have to lie about how Jacob

30:28

alordi passed away. But that's why I say

30:30

I think that is the biggest twist of

30:32

the film because the rest of the film

30:34

is very passive. You don't see how Jacob

30:37

alordi dies. You don't see how the sister

30:39

dies. I mean, what happens with Roseman Pike

30:41

is very visceral and shocking. But yeah, that

30:43

was actually maybe the most disturbing part of

30:45

the movie actually, this is where it's a

30:48

bit of a logic gap, which I'm willing

30:50

to go with this film of like, okay,

30:52

he wants to consume Jacob alordi so much,

30:54

he's going to go through the entire family

30:56

till he is the heir

30:58

of salt burn. But the film

31:01

takes place between 2006 and 2007. It then jumps

31:04

20 years. Because

31:06

it's 2027. And you get this when he's looking

31:10

at the newspaper and sees the great Richard

31:12

E. Grant, who always loved when he's in

31:14

a movie, he is the father of Jacob

31:16

alordi's character. Guys, if you

31:18

hear airplanes in the background, it's because for

31:21

Chelsea's health, we've kept the door open. Because

31:25

I can't actually record this podcast with

31:27

a mask on. So

31:30

then he seeks out Rosenman Pike's

31:32

character in a cafe, presumably

31:34

marries her only for

31:37

her to have a terrible accident.

31:39

This film more resembles a Netflix

31:41

true crime docu series than the

31:43

talented Mr. Ripley. Yeah, and I'm

31:45

completely willing to look past the

31:47

aspects of this film that are

31:49

illogical or cliche. And there are

31:51

many things that fall into those

31:54

categories. But at the end of

31:56

the day, it's like, it

31:58

entertains me it was entertaining. That's

32:00

really all I care about at this

32:02

point is being entertained. I'd rather watch

32:05

a mediocre movie that is

32:07

entertaining than a good movie that I will

32:09

forget about in two years. Two years? Try

32:11

two days. Exactly. I guess there is a

32:13

fourth most shocking thing that a lot of

32:16

people are talking about, which is at the

32:18

end of the film, Barry Keogan

32:20

strips naked and dances to murder on

32:23

the dance floor. Great needle drop. I've

32:25

been wondering why I've been hearing that

32:27

song on the internet so much lately

32:30

because it never really caught

32:32

on in the United States. I thought you

32:34

were gonna say great flaccid cock. Seemed

32:38

like pretty decent. But I

32:40

still hear that song all the

32:42

time because expats from like Commonwealth

32:44

countries like always put it on

32:46

when they get drunk. They live

32:48

for that shit. So Aussies and

32:50

Canadians and British people. Also, when

32:52

I saw Carey Mulligan, it reminded

32:55

me of like when you go

32:57

to the theater and someone

32:59

over the loudspeaker is like, so

33:01

for today's performance, the role of

33:04

Helena Bonham Carter will be played

33:06

by Carey Mulligan. Yeah, wow.

33:08

I didn't even connect that. But yes,

33:10

yeah. Any who, so see salt burn

33:12

or don't I don't really give a

33:14

shit. But I enjoyed it. And for

33:16

those that were dying for our opinion,

33:18

I think you may be disappointed that

33:20

we liked it. I do think Jacob

33:22

Elordi was hotter in this than Priscilla.

33:24

Okay. All right. We got the definitive

33:26

answer. Like the portrayal of Elvis was

33:28

like his personality wasn't hot. Like he

33:30

was a real snore, you know, but

33:32

also the eyebrow piercing added a lot.

33:34

And I think someone that big and

33:36

masculine just being shirtless and wearing angel

33:38

wings like always hot. So hot. Moving on.

33:41

God, we're really packing it in in

33:43

this app. A film that earlier this year

33:45

we claimed was going to be our favorite

33:47

movie ever May December. And you know

33:49

what, it just might be my favorite movie.

33:52

I have watched it twice. I

33:54

haven't been able to stop thinking about it.

33:56

I really enjoyed it. I don't think it's

33:58

my favorite Todd Haynes. but it's definitely

34:00

up there. I think a lot of issues that

34:03

people are having with this film is I

34:05

don't think people understand that this is

34:08

a melodrama, which is a

34:10

genre in and of itself and something

34:12

that Todd Haynes loves. And

34:15

like he's a huge fan of Douglas Serk.

34:17

So I feel like the dramatic music cue

34:19

that everyone is reposting, right? Where it's like

34:21

the piano and then Julianne Moore opening up

34:24

the fridge and going, I don't think we

34:26

have enough hot dogs. Yeah,

34:28

it was campier than I thought it

34:31

would be. I did not expect the

34:33

music to be so extreme. I did

34:35

not expect the lisp to be so

34:37

extreme. But I think that you need

34:39

those kind of musical cues and that

34:41

kind of acting to make the movie

34:44

watchable. And what I mean by that is

34:46

the context and the subtext of that

34:48

film is so fucking depressing

34:51

that it's almost too

34:53

much to bear without those kind

34:55

of campy elements. Well, that's the

34:57

amazing thing about this movie because

35:00

the subject matter is so dark

35:02

and taboo, but there's

35:04

nothing about the film that feels

35:06

moralistic at all. And somehow it

35:08

still manages to be funny while

35:11

still being respectful of the victim

35:14

in this story, which is very

35:16

impressive to me. I was also

35:18

shocked at how ripped from the

35:20

headlines this film was to the

35:22

Mary Kay Leturno story because I

35:24

thought it was going to be loosely

35:26

based. And it's like, oh, at some

35:28

point, it's just point for point recreations

35:30

of interviews they've done. Basically, the premise

35:32

of this film is that Julianne Moore

35:34

is Mary Kay Leturno. She is a

35:37

tabloid figure who rose to prominence

35:39

because she committed statutory rape. She

35:41

had a affair with a 15

35:43

year old boy that she later

35:45

married. And Natalie Portman plays the

35:47

actress that is playing her in

35:49

a film that has come to

35:51

study her. And what surprised me

35:53

about that is I assumed that

35:55

the Natalie Portman character would be a

35:58

slightly higher caliber of actress. Like

36:00

I thought that Natalie Portman would

36:02

be like Natalie Portman, but

36:05

really Natalie Portman is more like, I don't

36:07

know, who do you think is on her

36:09

fame level? From the context clues of people

36:11

talking about the show that Natalie Portman's character

36:14

is on, it is a

36:16

Katherine Heigl, Ellen Pompeo, an

36:19

actress that's been stuck on a TV

36:21

medical procedural for a while. Which I

36:24

think is like a vet show? She's

36:26

also famous enough though to have some

36:28

sort of Neutrogena campaign. I loved that

36:30

fake commercial that was in this. Oh,

36:32

that was so good. There were photos

36:35

of Mary Kaye Lauterno that they

36:37

basically recreated with Julianne Moore. And

36:40

the part where she was like,

36:42

who's in charge? Who's the boss?

36:44

That shit. That was from whatever

36:47

that really famous interview with Mary

36:49

Kaye Lauterno. The one where Villy

36:51

is like fully disassociating and it's

36:53

extremely depressing. Yeah, people have, I've

36:55

seen do a comparison. So in

36:57

the Todd Haynes film, it's Julianne

36:59

Moore imploring Charles Melton,

37:01

who is the runaway breakout

37:04

performance of this film. I

37:06

mean, everyone's incredible. Yeah,

37:08

no, I agree. It's all about him. He's the

37:10

one that should win the Oscar. Julianne

37:12

Moore and Natalie Portman already have them. And

37:15

he really added so much

37:17

depth and humanity to this

37:19

movie that is otherwise quite

37:21

campy. Right. She's trying to

37:23

implore who was in charge as Charles

37:25

Melton is like, I think we should

37:28

talk about this. Like I don't think

37:30

this was right. And it is taken

37:32

from an interview, as you said, with

37:34

Mary Kaye Lauterno and Villy,

37:36

where a reporter is really

37:39

turning the screws to her and she just

37:41

keeps saying to Villy, who was the boss?

37:44

You were the boss. I wasn't the boss. And

37:46

she's fucking talking about a 13 year

37:48

old when she was 34, 36. Yeah,

37:51

she's literally gaslighting him on

37:53

national television. Another thing that I

37:56

found to be unexpected about this

37:58

was I kind of assumed that...

38:00

that the Julianne Moore character, because

38:02

she is so inherently

38:04

immoral, would be the crazier one

38:06

of the two. But

38:09

I was quite surprised with Natalie

38:11

Portman, who had what I could

38:13

only describe as Jenny Schechter energy.

38:15

Yes, she's an actress who thinks

38:17

that this role will be her

38:19

breakout role out of the kind

38:22

of TV prison that

38:25

she's been in the last few

38:27

years. And so she increasingly becomes

38:30

not just obsessed with Julianne Moore's

38:32

character, but like obsessed with being

38:34

her. But also

38:36

embodying the lack

38:39

of morals that Julianne Moore must have

38:41

had to be able to seduce a 13 year old,

38:43

or I think in this film it's 15, not 13. When

38:46

Natalie Portman's character goes to the

38:48

high school of the twins, so

38:50

Julianne Moore and Charles Melton's character

38:52

have twins who are graduating high

38:55

school. And so she goes to an acting

38:57

class, Natalie Portman, and she talks about

38:59

having sex scenes in front of a group

39:02

of teenagers, which is so wildly

39:04

inappropriate. I know, it

39:06

really was. And I would say

39:08

one of the craziest scenes is

39:10

when Natalie Portman is reviewing the

39:13

tapes of the 13 year old

39:15

boys, or 15 year old boys

39:17

who are gonna play her co-star

39:19

in this film. And they, I

39:21

mean, they look like kids, right?

39:23

I think a lot when things

39:25

are recreated for TV and film,

39:27

because they are usually 18 year

39:29

olds or 20 year olds

39:31

playing teenagers to really have people

39:33

that age just highlights the horror

39:36

of this crime. And then also

39:38

the campy horror of Natalie Portman

39:40

saying to the producer, I think

39:43

they need to be hotter. Well,

39:45

some people look at this as

39:47

a fantasy. Natalie Portman's character has

39:49

very much like eroticized this situation

39:51

to the point that she's

39:53

engaging in like grooming role play with like

39:55

a 30 something year old

39:57

man. Yeah, I mean, to your point.

40:00

someone who definitely thinks this is hot

40:02

and okay is Bill Maher who I

40:04

saw a recent uncovered politically

40:06

incorrect episode where he's talking about the Mary

40:09

Kay Lauterno case and he's like come on

40:11

it's fine and Henry Rollins is one of

40:13

the the panelists and he's like no man

40:16

I think that this isn't okay and I

40:18

think the kid is gonna be messed up

40:20

for the rest of his life and Bill

40:22

Maher goes so you're not gonna be on

40:25

my side and Henry Rollins goes no see

40:27

I knew I loved him. Henry

40:29

Rollins or Bill Maher? Yeah obviously Henry

40:31

Rollins. So this is full spoiler territory

40:33

but were you shocked in

40:36

the end who ends up fucking? I

40:38

thought this was leading towards at least a

40:40

sapphic kiss between Julia and more and Natalie

40:42

Portman. Yes I thought it might go that

40:45

way too especially after the

40:47

very erotic makeup applying scene. They

40:49

are social outcast he seems to

40:51

be an x-ray tech. She has

40:54

a baking business that is only

40:56

sustained from the same like small

40:58

group of people keeping her employed

41:00

and yet when she's showing her

41:03

makeup to Natalie Portman I'm like I think that's

41:05

a Westman Atelier contour stick. Yeah

41:07

and I think her foundation was

41:09

Charlotte Tilbury which I'm sorry this

41:11

woman would not have makeup that's

41:13

that highbrow or expensive. No it

41:16

definitely felt like Julianne Moore was

41:18

like here's my makeup for my

41:20

makeup bag. Yeah in reality all

41:22

of her makeup would be drugstore.

41:24

Maybelline maybe she's born with it.

41:26

Maybe she just fucked a teenager.

41:29

But yes the climax I guess

41:31

pun intended in the film is

41:33

that Charles Melton and Natalie Portman

41:36

have sex and to her it's just

41:38

a casual encounter. I think for her

41:40

it's her own psychotic method way of

41:42

getting into the character of like so

41:44

this is what it's like to fuck

41:46

him and Charles Melton has he has

41:48

these two devastating scenes right the one

41:51

where he smokes weed for the first

41:53

time with his own son which reinforces

41:55

this idea of like oh yeah he

41:57

never got a teenager at a child's

41:59

house. And then he's

42:01

only ever been with one woman. And

42:04

so when Nally Portman, after they have sex, is

42:06

just acting completely casual, like it was a handshake, like

42:09

he can't comprehend what's happening, and she

42:12

just has a devastating line to him, this

42:14

is what adults do. Or what

42:16

grownups do, which is even more

42:18

sinister. Yeah, imagine having like a

42:20

15 year age difference with

42:23

your dad. Oh, also, one thing I

42:25

wanted to point out, this is

42:27

the second film where Julianne Moore has

42:29

a breakdown related to baking. I don't know

42:32

if you remember that scene in the hours

42:34

where she's trying to make John C. Riley

42:36

a birthday cake. Oh, right. And she has

42:38

a full, and she literally just decides to

42:41

kill herself as a result. Also,

42:43

after I watched May, December, I of

42:45

course immediately had to watch Black Swan.

42:47

Ooh. And there are a couple of

42:50

parallels to Black Swan as well. There

42:52

is another cake breakdown. Remember when Barbara

42:54

Hershey like gives her the cake and

42:56

that whole thing? And then

42:58

there's also a similar scene where

43:01

Natalie Portman like tries on

43:03

Winona Ryder's lipstick, which felt

43:05

similarly erotic. Okay, before we

43:08

move on, can we get

43:10

to the tar-esque ending of

43:13

the film? Sure. Natalie Portman

43:15

has done all of this,

43:17

and it's a fucking TV

43:19

movie. It's not even a

43:21

good movie. However, even if

43:23

this is a shitty made-for-TV

43:25

movie, her performance is

43:27

incredible. You think she's definitely getting Emmy

43:30

consideration for this? I don't know if

43:32

she's getting Emmy consideration, but she deserves

43:34

to. This project is beneath her. Right,

43:37

but the hope that Julianne Moore and

43:39

Charles Melton's character have is that this

43:41

will tell their real story and not

43:44

be some schlocky TV movie as they

43:46

previously done. Okay, so moving on, aside

43:48

from these films, what else have you

43:51

been watching lately? I honestly haven't had

43:53

time for much. Because you're on your

43:55

deathbed. I'm on my deathbed, as we

43:58

know. I'm gonna be hospitalized by next. week.

44:00

As you've said, you love a minor

44:02

illness to go back to bed and

44:04

actually watch TV, but I have had

44:06

time to watch a Netflix documentary called

44:08

Escaping Twin Flames. Okay, I saw the

44:10

trailer, but I haven't actually watched it.

44:13

Is it good? It's worth your time.

44:15

And here's why. Imagine if Scientology wasn't

44:17

consumed with the idea of Thetans being

44:19

attached to our bodies. And instead of

44:21

that, it was just your twin flame,

44:23

this soulmate who whether they want to

44:25

or not, they need to be with

44:27

you. Okay, like there is a woman

44:29

who legit went to jail for

44:32

stalking. Because she followed this

44:34

course. How do you know who

44:36

your twin flame is? So it's

44:38

funny that you ask that because

44:40

it is such an insular group

44:42

that initially when they formed this

44:44

cult, it's a Jeff and Juliet

44:46

divine, not their real last name,

44:48

if you can believe it. Early

44:50

on, there was a couple who

44:52

were each other's twin flame. They

44:54

were the poster child of this

44:56

cult. It operates like a cult

44:59

slash MLM because twin flames became

45:01

professors and then brought in other

45:03

people who they coached. After a

45:05

few years and people have spent

45:07

thousands of dollars and haven't met

45:09

their twin flame, they decide that

45:11

actually everyone's twin flame is within

45:13

this group. But also at

45:15

the same time, they become very obsessed

45:17

with gender roles. So it's all about

45:19

the divine feminine and the divine masculine.

45:21

Chelsea, what do you think happens in

45:24

a mostly female group where everyone is

45:26

each other's soulmate? Oh, so they all

45:28

ended up being lesbians, even though they're

45:30

straight, they told some people they were

45:32

trans and didn't know it. Okay, that's

45:34

iconic. And they were like, okay, I

45:36

mean, reluctantly, I mean, this is also

45:38

the crazy thing is like, it's still

45:40

going on. I feel like you and

45:42

I, I would like to think would

45:44

never get wrapped up in a cult.

45:47

Certainly not this cold because the

45:50

graphic design is so terrible. Ew, not

45:53

sexy. What have you been watching? So my

45:55

wife is a big fan of Taylor Jenkins

45:57

Reid and has been trying to get me

46:00

to read her books forever. So I finally

46:02

read The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo, which

46:04

I loved, and then I read Daisy Jones

46:06

in the Six, and then

46:08

I had to watch the Hulu

46:11

series that came out, I don't

46:13

know, a couple years ago or

46:15

something like that? Unfortunately, I think

46:17

it was earlier this year. Really?

46:19

Is that how much culture we've

46:21

ingested? It was released March 3rd

46:23

of this year. Oh my god.

46:25

Yeah, basically it's about a Fleetwood

46:27

Mac-esque band, and Riley Keough plays

46:29

the Stevie Nicks in the equation.

46:31

Suki Waterhouse plays the Christine McVie,

46:33

and it's truly wild because the

46:35

format of this is that it

46:38

mostly takes place in the 70s, but there's kind

46:41

of like present day interviews with

46:43

the characters talking about what happened,

46:45

as if it's for a documentary

46:47

or something. And they did not

46:49

change the actors, nor did they

46:51

put them in old makeup. So

46:53

imagine Suki Waterhouse playing like a

46:55

60 or 70 year old

46:57

Christine McVie. They did this on

46:59

Outlander as well, which takes place

47:01

over decades. It's also a time

47:04

travel historical romance. Don't worry about

47:06

it, Chelsea. But they kind of did the same

47:08

thing where they're like, they're in their

47:10

50s, but it's like, they kind of

47:12

just look how the actors normally look.

47:14

Very weird. I thought the book was

47:17

good, but it's kind of weird because

47:19

usually when something is based on historical

47:21

events, in this instance, the recording of

47:23

the Rumors album, the TV or the

47:25

film version is like way more exaggerated

47:27

and way more crazy. But in this

47:30

instance, it's like not the case, like

47:32

the actual story is 10 times crazier

47:34

than Daisy Jones in the sixth. But

47:36

one thing I do really like about

47:38

it is the fact that the

47:40

song that is supposed to be

47:43

their breakthrough single is actually a

47:45

good song. And it would have

47:47

been a hit had it

47:49

been released in the 70s. Yeah, I

47:52

feel like this strain of music having

47:54

to create media within movies is the

47:56

easiest to recreate authentically like I think

47:58

of almost famous and Stillwater's

48:01

hit song Fever Dog. Okay, but Fever

48:03

Dog did not slap as hard as

48:05

Look at Us Now from Daisy Jones

48:07

and the Six. Although, yes, I get

48:10

what you're saying, and I actually would

48:12

recommend Daisy Jones and the Six to

48:14

fans of Almost Famous. Like, that's exactly

48:16

who should watch this. I

48:18

know, but I remember when Daisy Jones and

48:20

the Six came out, people were juxtaposing stills

48:22

from Daisy Jones and the Six and Almost

48:24

Famous, where it's like, why does one legit

48:26

look like it's from the 70s and the

48:28

other is a wish.com version

48:31

of them? Yeah, I think the

48:33

biggest disjunct between the book and

48:35

the series for me was that I

48:38

imagine Daisy as being like

48:40

extremely cool from the beginning,

48:42

and in this series, she's kind of

48:44

only cool at the very end, you

48:46

know? And that's a problem. Yeah,

48:49

because girls are, they're born that way. They're

48:51

born, they're not made. Is it like that

48:53

in the book? Yes, in the book, she

48:56

is a total it girl, and I think the author

48:58

does a good job of capturing that

49:00

for sure. But yeah,

49:02

my main takeaway is that one

49:04

fake song. Do any fake songs

49:06

speak to you? I would be

49:08

remiss if I did not mention

49:11

the song from the Lone Ranger,

49:13

degenerated from the film Airheads. Okay,

49:16

I have a confession to make. I've never seen Airheads. Oh,

49:18

you would like it. Would I? And

49:20

Tat would like it. It's an early Adam Sandler

49:22

role. You know what the plot of the

49:24

film is. Okay, Brendan

49:27

Fraser, Steve Buscemi, and Adam

49:29

Sandler are wannabe rock stars

49:31

in the early 90s. They

49:33

have like a pseudo grunge rock band

49:36

called the Lone Rangers, and

49:38

Steve Buscemi works for a

49:40

toy store, and he very early on

49:42

in the film shows them these hyper-realistic

49:45

guns that can't be sold at the

49:47

toy store. So anyway, they

49:49

have this idea to hold up a radio

49:51

station until their single is played. That sounds

49:53

cool. I think

49:55

my favorite fake song is That Thing

49:57

You Do from That Thing You Do.

50:00

you do. Remember how good that song

50:02

was? Like, I think that having a

50:04

good song is required for a film

50:06

or a television show where it's all about

50:09

a band getting famous because of a song.

50:11

But that song I think it's as good as

50:13

any 60s one hit wonder.

50:15

The O'Needers. So you

50:17

have one hit wonders, the wonders. Remember how

50:19

they actually played that song on the radio?

50:22

As you're saying this, I'm like in my

50:24

head, it's playing that thing you do because

50:26

of course I owned the CD and played

50:29

it at nauseam as a child. Okay,

50:31

let's drop a clip of that here. It's

50:48

just in my head, like it won't

50:50

leave. No, and they play it 10,000

50:53

times during that thing you do. And

50:55

by the end, you're still not sick

50:57

of it. I think we also have

50:59

to mention, of course, the star is

51:01

born, but that's been mentioned enough. The

51:04

single shallow, of course, was amazing. But

51:06

many of the songs were amazing, not

51:08

all but enough to populate a soundtrack.

51:10

And also, I think maybe that is

51:12

the best fake pop music in a

51:15

movie because you have Lady Gaga. And

51:17

it's pop music like what's her name?

51:19

Alice or Ally? Ally. Oh my god.

51:22

Put some respect on Ally Maine's name. Do

51:24

you think she changed her name back after

51:27

his suicide? Or that just she will always

51:29

be Ally Maine? Did you just ruin star

51:31

is born? I'm sorry, if you don't know

51:34

how star is born ends by now, after

51:37

four films, then

51:39

that's on you. And five years

51:42

after the film came out. But the

51:44

fact that Ally Maine's pop music is

51:46

separate to Lady Gaga's own pop music

51:49

is astonishing. So I think that might

51:51

be the best music in a film.

51:53

But also we should be thinking of

51:55

the band from beyond the Valley of

51:57

the Dolls because they had some bops.

52:00

Do we have a little time for me just to give

52:02

you a rundown of what's going on the Real Housewives of

52:04

Beverly Hills? I don't know. When do I need to take

52:07

you to Cedar Sinai? Yeah guys, we've

52:09

transferred to my bed. I won't

52:11

get into what's going on with Kyle

52:13

and Sutton. There was a whole thing

52:16

in Las Vegas where they went to Magic Mike

52:18

and Sutton wore pants, which I

52:20

guess was a big deal to her and

52:22

after she wasn't called on stage, she had

52:24

a whole meltdown where she yelled at everyone

52:27

that she's on the board of the American

52:29

Ballet Theatre and she can't be seen at

52:32

such a thing and everyone was like, is

52:35

it because you didn't get called on stage? And she's

52:37

like, no, that's not what it's about. And

52:39

they're like, you're kind of making a big deal about this.

52:42

She's like, I'm not. Having seen

52:44

Magic Mike live, I'm surprised she would

52:46

have wanted to be called on stage

52:48

because they're all like swishy bottoms and

52:51

skinny jeans. Like it's not like giving

52:53

Channing Tatum. She would have known

52:55

what was going on, what that show was like to

52:57

begin with, but that's neither here nor there. What

53:00

I do want to get into is that

53:02

Morgan Wade has finally been introduced into the

53:04

show. There has

53:06

been a lot of rumors that Kyle

53:09

Richards is now seeing this country

53:11

singer Morgan Wade. And I actually,

53:15

having now seen them together on camera, interacting

53:17

for the first time, I don't think they're

53:19

together like that. I

53:23

think it's something far worse, which

53:25

is Kyle is obsessed with Morgan

53:27

and Morgan doesn't feel the same way because

53:30

having watched them interact, the energy is

53:32

not there. Kyle's acting

53:34

like a giggly teenager and Morgan's

53:36

like, okay, cool. Now

53:39

I'm left with the crushing reality that we aren't

53:41

going to get a gay affair, but

53:44

instead it's just a woman having a

53:46

gnarly midlife crisis for all of us

53:48

to watch. Kyle's not above drinking Morgan's

53:50

bathwater is what you're saying. I think

53:52

it's possible. I think it may have

53:54

happened. Well, I'm

53:57

excited to see what happens, even

53:59

though I don't want to. Well, I'm excited

54:01

to hear what happened. Yeah. via you since

54:04

I don't watch this show. But I am

54:06

still invested in this because of course I

54:08

would like a Beverly Hills housewife to be

54:10

with a woman, you know, in a non

54:12

Denise Richards. Wait, what was the other situation?

54:14

Denise Richards in Brandi Glandville, which we're in

54:17

the middle of I haven't watched this

54:19

week's episode, but another dinner party

54:21

from hell, which is a weed

54:23

theme dinner party that Denise Richards

54:25

is there. And it would appear

54:28

has mixed some alcohol with some

54:30

prescription drugs because she isn't making any

54:32

sense. See, I think we dinner parties

54:34

are the worst idea unless you're the

54:36

hugest donor in the world. I can't

54:38

imagine how that would work. It doesn't

54:40

seem like a good idea. If I'm

54:42

smoking pot, the last thing I want

54:44

to do is socialize in that kind

54:47

of context. And especially having bitch fights

54:49

doesn't work. Moving on to fashion. In

54:51

case you've been living under a rock.

54:54

Balenciaga had a show in Los

54:56

Angeles. It was their new pre fall

54:58

collection. And the

55:01

show was on a very picturesque

55:03

street in Hancock Park. I couldn't

55:05

believe it. I would love to

55:07

talk to the event producer. I

55:09

don't even know how you rent

55:12

out a street in Hancock Park. I mean,

55:14

clearly they picked this very specific street because

55:16

you had a perfect view to the Hollywood

55:18

sign in the background. This is a very

55:21

affluent neighborhood. So it's like how do you

55:23

kick that many rich people out of their

55:25

homes? I mean, the money that they got

55:28

must have been crazy. Well, and also it's

55:30

a Saturday afternoon. It's like, hi,

55:32

can you not leave

55:34

your house for eight hours while we

55:36

mount this fashion show? And can Nicole

55:38

Kidman use your bathroom? So

55:42

Kat went, I wanted to have her

55:44

on the pod today to talk about

55:46

it, but she couldn't because she's working.

55:48

But she said that like, no one

55:50

was peering through the windows either. They

55:52

either were gone or hiding. I wonder

55:54

if they paid for them to be

55:56

in a hotel for the weekend or

55:58

something. I would imagine. that seems cheaper

56:00

than renting their homes. So

56:03

we're a year out from the Balenciaga scandal.

56:05

Isn't that crazy that it's only been a

56:08

year? Well, no, because a year ago, I

56:10

was so sick, I lost my voice. Maybe

56:12

it's just an annual thing for me. And

56:15

we were discussing this around this time last year.

56:17

But the fact that last year at this time,

56:19

you were like, I don't know if we should

56:21

talk about this because I don't want to get

56:23

fucking docked. And

56:26

now it's like it never happened. Gemna is

56:28

back in the cultural zeitgeist doing what he

56:30

does best, reflecting the worst parts of our

56:32

culture back to us. I know,

56:35

I love that so many people were

56:37

appalled by this show because it's like

56:39

tacky as if the vast majority of

56:41

luxury consumers aren't. I would love to

56:43

know the conversations of how they got

56:46

the collab and licensing for Erewhon because

56:48

that was a genius move. It's the

56:50

kind of thing that I can't imagine

56:52

any other brand doing in the same

56:55

way. I mean, people love to have

56:57

hot and bad takes about Balenciaga and

56:59

they were like, who would pay

57:01

like $700 for a leather Aeron tote? And

57:05

it's like, people, people will. It's

57:08

going to sell out. Yeah, also I think $700

57:10

is a very generous estimate. I'm

57:13

thinking that's more like $3,000. Did

57:15

you know that the to-go coffee cups that

57:18

people were holding, that those are bags? Yeah,

57:20

I saw a video of it. There's a

57:22

hinge on one side and when you

57:24

flip up the top of the cuff, there's like a

57:26

little mirror. Is that our new pigeon bag? Do we

57:28

have to add to the collection? But

57:31

yeah, I thought it was a cool show. They're

57:34

coming off what I think are two

57:36

of their strongest shows, the spring show

57:39

and the couture show before that. So

57:41

I don't think this was as major

57:43

as that necessarily but certainly fun to

57:45

watch. And most of the pieces were

57:47

just like what would be in the

57:50

store? Like it wasn't a ton of

57:52

fantasy apart from the gowns and

57:54

the coats at the end. They make their

57:56

money selling bags and shoes and that's what

57:58

this collection was about. T-shirts, hoodies. Yeah,

58:01

you can find the giant Ugg

58:03

boots offensive, but they're gonna sell

58:05

well. I feel like the backlash

58:07

to Balenciaga is always really funny

58:10

because whenever they rework something that

58:12

signifies like the lower classes, whether

58:14

it's a clutch that looks like

58:16

a bag of chips or these

58:19

weird fake Ugg boots, people get

58:21

so outraged. But

58:23

then it's like that only fuels

58:25

the hype behind this brand, right?

58:27

Like the criticism is that the

58:29

brand is all about hype, but

58:32

they create the hype because the haters

58:34

are as obsessed as the fans. The

58:36

true death for someone like Demna would

58:38

be if people had no reaction. We're

58:40

incapable of not having reactions in today's

58:43

cultures. As long as I think he

58:45

wants to be a Balenciaga, he'll be

58:47

there. These clothes sell, so he will

58:49

stay there as long as he wants

58:51

to. For sure, but I do have

58:53

a question about one section of the

58:56

show. Because artistically, I understand having the

58:58

Chanel tweed suits. I'll put that in

59:00

quotes. But would

59:02

you buy a Balenciaga skirt suit mimicking

59:04

a Chanel suit? Yes, because these suits,

59:07

if you look closely, they look like

59:09

they're too tight on the models. It

59:11

looks like the buttons are pulling, and

59:13

that's a design thing. So that makes

59:16

it different than an actual Chanel suit.

59:18

I don't think these are for people

59:20

that would buy a Chanel suit. As

59:23

he spoke about in the show notes,

59:25

growing up as a refugee, a

59:28

lot of his media was showing Los

59:30

Angeles. And that's definitely when I

59:32

think about LA and like Kris Jenner

59:34

and Beverly Hills in the late 80s

59:36

and 90s. I'm thinking about Chanel suits.

59:38

Yeah, pretty woman, Beverly Hills. It's

59:41

that cream and baby pink Chanel suit that

59:43

we all think about. But I thought the

59:45

first section of the show, like

59:47

the first third, which was all ass

59:50

leisure, into the bootleg Juicy Couture stuff,

59:53

I was like, oh, that is how

59:55

people actually look here. That's like how

59:57

people look when they're leaving Equinox in

59:59

West Hollywood. Yeah, what's going to

1:00:01

be interesting about this collection is it

1:00:03

is an amped up version of how

1:00:05

people dress in Los Angeles for the

1:00:07

most part, but also producing really hypey

1:00:09

gigantic sneakers, gigantic of the people are

1:00:11

then going to buy now leave equinox

1:00:13

in that amped up version of what

1:00:16

they were previously where it's like where

1:00:18

does this end? I know.

1:00:20

In the shoes, you can buy

1:00:22

the shoes now apparently, which are

1:00:24

comically huge. Like if you thought

1:00:26

their shoes were big before, if you thought those

1:00:28

Yeezy shoes were big, these are like really

1:00:30

fucking big clown shoes. They are clown

1:00:32

shoes. Can we also talk

1:00:34

about some of the models because we did get

1:00:36

a couple of celebs in this show that we

1:00:39

did. I saw Cardi B, which is kind of

1:00:41

a weird choice as I do not associate her

1:00:43

with Los Angeles at all. Like when I think

1:00:45

of Cardi B, like that's the most New York

1:00:47

person. I've ever seen

1:00:49

like she's from the Bronx. I guess

1:00:52

you couldn't make it to the Wall Street show last year. And

1:00:54

more importantly, we got Brigitte Nielsen. Incredible.

1:00:58

I think her and Cardi should have

1:01:00

swapped outfits. Yeah, yeah. Like

1:01:03

it's a cool subversion to put

1:01:05

Brigitte Nielsen in these like thigh

1:01:07

high dominatrix boots and black jeans

1:01:09

and a turtleneck. But when I

1:01:11

think about her as a fashion

1:01:13

icon and how she looked in

1:01:16

the 80s during the

1:01:18

peak of her fame when she was married to

1:01:20

Sylvester Stallone, it's like I do think about like

1:01:23

that 80s extravagance and those red

1:01:25

carpet looks and those furs and

1:01:27

stuff. She's beyond. Also, I was

1:01:29

completely starstruck seeing her at the after

1:01:31

party and she was very easy to

1:01:33

spot as she is 20 feet

1:01:36

tall and blonde as fuck. Oh, I'm sorry.

1:01:38

You went to the after party, Chelsea. Well,

1:01:40

yeah, it was Tats plus one. Did you

1:01:42

get an Erewhon ex Balenciaga juice, Chelsea? I

1:01:45

didn't. They

1:01:47

had some sort of cocktail reception thing

1:01:49

at Sunset Tower that I didn't go

1:01:51

to. That was all about the

1:01:54

juice because me and Yo went and

1:01:56

saw Stevie Nicks. So the party that

1:01:58

I went to was at Whiskey A

1:02:00

Go-Go and it was very like. like,

1:02:02

unfancy on every level. Fascinating. With a

1:02:04

smattering of random celebs, most importantly, Brigitte

1:02:06

Nielsen. I was at Erewhon earlier this

1:02:08

week and I looked out for it

1:02:10

and it was not there. Well, I

1:02:12

had Tat snag you one from the

1:02:14

Reese's, so shall we sample it now?

1:02:16

Please. Oh yeah, this'll revive

1:02:18

me. Yeah, the funny thing is that Lauren

1:02:20

actually needs this juice right now. Look

1:02:23

at us, all the things you need. It's

1:02:25

like charcoal, apple, ginger, spinach. The most important

1:02:27

thing is it has activated charcoal, which gives

1:02:30

it its black look. But nothing really edgy

1:02:32

about the taste of the juice itself. No,

1:02:34

so much so that I would drink this

1:02:36

on the regular if they sold it. Wait,

1:02:39

so they didn't have it when you went

1:02:41

to Erewhon? Not the Studio City one. Yeah,

1:02:43

I wonder how long they planned on manufacturing

1:02:46

that for, if it was just like

1:02:48

a last weekend kind of thing. Well, I

1:02:50

hope it becomes like the Healy Bieber smoothie

1:02:52

and it gets so popular, we're like, fuck

1:02:54

it, I guess this is just in our

1:02:57

repertoire now. Oh, is that what happened? Haven't

1:02:59

you ever been to Erewhon and just seen

1:03:01

like depressed underpaid smoothie makers just making like

1:03:03

six Healy Bieber pink smoothies at a time?

1:03:06

You know, I never get smoothies at Erewhon,

1:03:08

I get juices. And I've

1:03:10

never really cared about any of the

1:03:12

celebrities that have done the smoothies enough

1:03:14

to get one. I was never a

1:03:16

juice person, but this may have converted me.

1:03:18

Is that a business expense if we get an

1:03:21

Erewhon membership? Watch us go to jail.

1:03:23

This is a

1:03:25

case for the FBI. You're

1:03:30

too rich and I hate you.

1:03:33

I was horrified to see on Deadline

1:03:36

this week that Kim Kardashian will

1:03:38

be re-teaming with Ryan Murphy as

1:03:40

she will star in a Hulu

1:03:42

legal drama from the

1:03:45

executive producer. Kim, take a

1:03:47

break, please rest. I

1:03:50

don't know how she does it. The other

1:03:52

problem with this announcement is

1:03:54

okay, you were standout in this season of

1:03:56

American Horror Story. You got the best lines,

1:03:58

it was a bit roll. But I

1:04:00

don't know if I were her, it's

1:04:02

like I pulled it off once, good.

1:04:04

But now she's doubling down on acting

1:04:07

and I'm a little worried. Kim acting

1:04:09

is not a problem for me. I'm

1:04:11

excited by it. I just don't understand

1:04:13

how she's planning on doing this, running

1:04:16

skims, running skin, that venture

1:04:18

capital firm that she has.

1:04:20

Sky. And what else? Oh,

1:04:22

her four children. Oh, and

1:04:25

the becoming a lawyer thing.

1:04:28

I wonder if she's negotiated that they

1:04:30

have to film in Calabasas. They're going

1:04:32

to build a production stage in the

1:04:35

skims office so that she can film

1:04:37

her part. For her sake, I hope

1:04:39

that happens. I'm excited by it because

1:04:42

American Horror Story is not the best

1:04:44

that Ryan Murphy has to offer at

1:04:46

this point. His best things are

1:04:48

other shows. So maybe this

1:04:50

will be one of those things. As of

1:04:53

late, his best things are shows that he

1:04:55

executive produces that he has nothing to do

1:04:57

with. Which I guess the Capote ladies is

1:04:59

one of those things. But also it's not

1:05:02

like she's just doing this Ryan Murphy show.

1:05:04

Wait, do we mention it's about lawyers? That's

1:05:06

so insane because it's like you're actually going

1:05:08

to be one. I think that's how they

1:05:11

pitched it to her. But it's not that

1:05:13

she's just doing this Ryan Murphy show. She

1:05:15

is also signed on as the lead in

1:05:17

this new Netflix movie called The Fifth Wheel

1:05:20

that is apparently some sort

1:05:22

of ensemble comedy written by

1:05:24

Paula Pell, former SNL writer,

1:05:26

star of Wine Country. It's

1:05:29

a very specific context that

1:05:31

I think she's been successful

1:05:33

in her role. I'm a

1:05:35

little worried for her to

1:05:38

try to go outside of those

1:05:40

parameters. See, I'm just selfishly

1:05:43

worried that this means that we

1:05:45

will never get a brick and

1:05:47

mortar skim store at the Century

1:05:49

City Westfield. The Kardashians would rather

1:05:51

open a permanent or pop up

1:05:53

store for any other venture other

1:05:55

than skims. Which skims ironically out

1:05:57

of all the other businesses. needs

1:06:00

a pop-up or a physical store

1:06:02

because what size are you?

1:06:04

I don't know. It could range two

1:06:06

sizes from your usual or two sizes

1:06:08

up. Two sizes down, two sizes up.

1:06:10

Yeah, to shop at Skims is to

1:06:13

place like a $500 order and then

1:06:15

to return two-thirds of it. Yeah, you're

1:06:17

basically playing sizing Russian roulette when you

1:06:19

buy Skims. You're basically just like putting

1:06:21

shit on your credit card when you

1:06:23

buy Skims. And we wonder why we're

1:06:25

not on the PR list. No,

1:06:29

I love it, but that's just like bras.

1:06:31

That is the number one thing that is

1:06:33

hard to buy for most people. Yeah, like

1:06:35

my nipple bra. I picked the wrong size.

1:06:37

I picked a 32B,

1:06:39

which I normally am. But thankfully,

1:06:42

Skims sent me someone else's wrong order under

1:06:44

my name and it was the right bra.

1:06:46

34B, so sorry, person. That

1:06:51

bra's mine now. I feel like

1:06:53

we should also mention Kendall's new

1:06:56

fashion campaign. She is the face

1:06:58

of the new Bottega Veneta campaign

1:07:00

alongside A$AP Rocky. Well, not alongside.

1:07:03

They did his and hers. But

1:07:05

it is a paparazzi-themed photo

1:07:08

shoot, which it feels

1:07:10

like more Mizelles Italian

1:07:12

Vogue paparazzi shoots than anything

1:07:14

else. Than like actual paparazzi

1:07:16

photos as of late. No,

1:07:18

but it was actual paparazzi

1:07:20

photos. That's the genius thing

1:07:23

because I think that when

1:07:25

big luxury brands try to

1:07:27

do these campaigns, they always

1:07:29

want it to look like

1:07:31

Ron Guella or a stylized

1:07:33

like a Hans Fuhrer kind of

1:07:36

version of a paparazzi photo. Why

1:07:38

not just get it straight from

1:07:40

Getty Images? Yeah, you're right. I'm

1:07:43

looking up the photos and I

1:07:45

can't find a photographer because the

1:07:47

photos of Kendall were paparazzi photos

1:07:50

previously. I mean, she purposely was

1:07:52

styled in these Bottega pieces, but

1:07:55

almost every shot we've seen in the Daily

1:07:57

Mail before, like I think about her

1:07:59

in the... the fur coat. We

1:08:02

talked about this on a recent episode

1:08:04

right on the walkway at the second

1:08:06

level of Sushi Park, which is a

1:08:08

known paparazzi spot. Yeah, apart from that,

1:08:10

I don't remember seeing any of these

1:08:12

Kendall photos, but I did see a

1:08:15

bunch of the ASAP Rocky ones, including

1:08:17

the one of him jogging in a

1:08:19

leather sweatsuit. And it didn't even occur

1:08:21

to me that it was for a

1:08:23

Bottega Veneta ad. I just thought he

1:08:25

had gone crazy. Oh, yeah, babes, here

1:08:27

is Kendall outside jade. Oh my god,

1:08:29

she even bother talking about the last

1:08:31

few episodes of the Kardashians. Oh, are

1:08:34

we behind talking about them? We certainly

1:08:36

didn't talk about the season finale that

1:08:38

I know. Okay, remind me what that

1:08:41

was again, Chloe and Chris go on

1:08:43

the tour bus to go down the

1:08:45

set. I almost said it in the

1:08:48

increment way. San Diego down the San

1:08:50

Diego to see blink 182 play Courtney

1:08:52

also tries to talk about generational egg

1:08:55

trauma to her mother who like does

1:08:57

not give a fuck. Okay, that was

1:08:59

wild. I mean, the way that Courtney

1:09:02

weaponizes therapy language is wild.

1:09:04

And also like watching Courtney

1:09:07

tried to explain something she's clearly

1:09:09

seen on tik tok once where she's

1:09:11

like true has eggs inside of her

1:09:14

that were inside of her when

1:09:16

she was inside your belly. And

1:09:18

you were inside mom, and

1:09:20

you had all your eggs and she was

1:09:22

inside. It's like, what the fuck are you

1:09:24

talking about Courtney? Look, she's on her own

1:09:27

journey. And I totally

1:09:29

see what you're talking about about

1:09:31

her weaponizing therapy speak. But I

1:09:33

don't get the impression that

1:09:35

a lot of other people in

1:09:38

this family have gone to therapy.

1:09:40

Oh, God, no. And also, I

1:09:42

think that what she's saying specifically

1:09:44

about the kind of men that are

1:09:46

brought into the family and how much

1:09:48

of a pass they get from everyone

1:09:50

is something that needs to be

1:09:52

said and something that needs to be

1:09:55

said specifically to Chris. She seems to

1:09:57

be in a good place with Corey.

1:09:59

I know, but she's currently trying to

1:10:01

get Chloe back together with Tristan. That's

1:10:03

fair. And I think there are definitely

1:10:06

generational patterns around that shit in that

1:10:08

family. Or at least all of the

1:10:10

Kardashian women have done this. And to

1:10:12

be fair, Kourtney out of all of

1:10:15

them has actually broken that pattern. Although

1:10:17

in watching that episode, I realized, did

1:10:19

you notice the very tense interaction between

1:10:21

Travis and Chris? I don't think they

1:10:23

like each other anymore. Also, I love

1:10:26

how Kourtney invited Chris to like

1:10:28

another Blink 182 show. She's like,

1:10:30

no, I'm good. Never need to do that again.

1:10:33

She also forgot to tell her mom that she

1:10:35

would be publicly announcing her pregnancy at a Blink

1:10:37

182 show. Well, and she also

1:10:39

didn't invite her family because she didn't want

1:10:41

to make it about them. Fair enough.

1:10:43

The other thing I thought was memorable

1:10:46

for myself is that we see Kim

1:10:48

shooting American Horror Story and the director

1:10:50

is Jennifer Lynch, daughter of David Lynch

1:10:53

and director of Boxing Helena. Also, did

1:10:55

you notice that on the what are

1:10:57

they called the little clapper boards? It

1:11:00

said American Horror Story Hamptons. So

1:11:02

is that supposed to be the name?

1:11:05

Like why was it changed to delicate?

1:11:07

I don't know why would be American

1:11:09

Horror Story Hamptons, but oftentimes productions will

1:11:11

be under code name. So people don't

1:11:14

know what the name is. And I still think

1:11:16

for American Horror Story, they think that their subtitles

1:11:18

are huge reveals. So maybe

1:11:20

they wanted to call it Hamptons as a

1:11:22

cover story. Right. Well, some of it does

1:11:24

take place in the Hamptons. Very true. I

1:11:26

guess it's time for me to call an

1:11:28

ambulance for you. If I got too sick,

1:11:30

this is gonna be the worst episode next

1:11:32

week. I'm never gonna hear the end of

1:11:35

this. Okay, since it's the end of the

1:11:37

show, and we never know how to end

1:11:39

the show, maybe we should invest in that

1:11:41

George Santos cameo. Maybe he could give us

1:11:43

a sign off. I think I missed the

1:11:45

window yet again. I think they're all sold out.

1:11:47

But I'm gonna keep my eye

1:11:49

open. I'm sure the next time it's gonna

1:11:51

be like, oh, no, wait, it's available. Chelsea,

1:11:53

we can book a personal video from him

1:11:55

for $400. All right, we're gonna do this. All

1:11:57

right, guys, we're gonna book a personal video.

1:12:00

cameo from George Santos and

1:12:02

tune in next week to hear what he

1:12:04

said to us. Sounds great. Bye guys. Bye.