0:01

and What's

2:00

up, man? Thank you for streaming yesterday with us

2:03

in the morning discord By the way everybody if

2:05

you are a part of the patreon discord and

2:07

you don't stop by very often If you have

2:09

in the last two weeks, you've probably noticed we

2:11

have like 12 to 24 people sometimes in

2:13

chat doing Streams, so if you want

2:15

to stream a game hang out it can

2:17

be any game. Feel free to jump in Let's

2:19

read some of these. Let's see. I got

2:21

my notification this week. Zachary says Big

2:25

Mac says Bobby Kotick should have been appointed head

2:28

of Xbox gaming division Sarfia really showed the whole

2:30

body is a complete shakeup in that department You

2:33

chose Bobby Kotick. Oh my goodness take but that's

2:35

also a big Mac You never know big man.

2:38

He was joking a lot and I can never

2:40

tell if he just says that afterwards He's fucking

2:42

with us. This is a British dry humor. Yeah,

2:44

it might be it might be Yeah,

2:48

let's see Matt says would be cool to hear some

2:50

takes on big VR releases Well, you should see up

2:52

there in our chat or in our name of the

2:55

title of this podcast That is what we're gonna talk

2:57

about So once again tweet out that we're doing this

2:59

it should go live into people's feeds in the next

3:01

five or ten minutes And

3:03

let's begin First way you've been

3:05

playing So

3:10

I've been sick and I sprained

3:12

my ankle So I've been

3:15

like laying back on my seat and shit and just

3:17

playing controller games. So I just I

3:19

put on Red Dead and Walking

3:21

around I spent like an hour just fucking

3:23

collecting plants and shit another

3:25

hour trying to catch a horse You know

3:27

just doing stupid shit and chilling out Prior

3:31

to that. I was like I was I was

3:33

playing Warhammer. Yeah, but I don't know League of Legends

3:35

do weren't you? Oh, yeah, I played

3:37

some league with the with one of the

3:39

dude dude from the disco. We're playing some

3:42

harems Yeah, yeah, it's still a shit game.

3:44

So nothing's changed. Yeah

3:46

funny. Wait, absolutely Nothing

3:48

has changed. Um Let's

3:51

see for this week. What have I been playing? We

3:53

did a bunch of finals in the stream, which was

3:56

awesome Did a bunch of hunter with some people and

3:58

then mostly played by myself Still

4:00

streamed it, but I played a lot of it single because

4:03

everybody jumps into the hunter Figure

4:05

out the rules Play

4:08

and my god, dude, I Mean,

4:11

I don't know if he thought elk we're gonna come after

4:13

him, but he was clean like call of duty So he'd

4:15

shoot a deer and I'm

4:17

like you gotta walk slowly so that you

4:19

can see the special effect of the deer

4:21

trail. Okay Full

4:23

speed and I'm like dude, this is not gonna work and he lost

4:25

like three animals in a row I

4:28

woke up in the middle of night and looked and it

4:30

looks like he had actually caught one which was hilarious, but

4:37

Fucking doing the little bird calls and

4:39

shit, you know, yeah With

4:42

elk urine has somebody had a great in their

4:44

eyes at 5 a.m. I know that pain So

4:46

I know what somebody may not want to play

4:48

that No, it's not good.

4:50

It does stink because they pee on themselves

4:53

all the time So that's how you cover your scent

4:55

is by spraying yourself with elk urine So

4:58

you smell like the elk and let me tell you you

5:00

ever been around horses, you know how

5:02

horses stink Yeah, they've got yeah, it's

5:04

like that. It's not that dirty. Oh,

5:06

yeah barn snake. Yeah, like humans clean

5:08

horses And nobody's out there, you know,

5:10

scratch the elk down or whatever There's

5:14

no winter fairy out there like

5:16

flowing around brushing down the so

5:19

Um Let's see. What else

5:21

what else has been played? I'm

5:23

still doing house key not how old dude

5:26

To house flavor. Yeah. Yeah, it's done of

5:28

that. I'm pretty sure I'm almost done with

5:31

all the jobs I've been

5:33

I love these assembly things that I've been I've

5:35

been doing all the jobs Yeah, all the assembly

5:37

things so I can get all the discounts. Those

5:39

are really fun to chill out on and

5:41

smart move Yeah, I

5:44

like it's it's way more You

5:46

do way more activities than one you have way

5:48

more things to do which is really really cool

5:50

I also found out with one for as

5:53

far as mission go missions go it's mostly

5:55

like cleaning but in this one you do

5:58

a lot of like deconstruction and And

6:00

you know pain. Yeah, like there

6:02

was more there's I mean you could say there's

6:04

more going on in this one Yeah, just from

6:06

the see the streamer house. There's like a streamer

6:08

house is one of them. I Think

6:11

I told you about that if you're talking about the one

6:13

that somebody made a comment about it It looks like some

6:15

of these are like switch chat Oh,

6:18

no, I'm talking about the one that was

6:20

really dirty and somebody said it's like there.

6:22

It's like their stream Oh, okay. I'm not

6:24

gonna dreamers name, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

6:26

Yeah. No, it was like a full-on You could

6:28

see twitch chat and then and she'll yeah. Yeah.

6:30

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah You're

6:32

right. There was another one in and ready or

6:35

not Which is a swap game

6:37

that I the one point? Oh came out so I

6:39

tried out and there's new missions and stuff

6:41

and one of them is a streamer house And then

6:43

you know streamers get swatted and stuff You

6:45

you you go in because you're swatting and then you

6:47

could see also twitch chat and you could stand in

6:49

front of the camera And they're like, what the fuck?

6:51

This is crazy. What the hell are these guys doing

6:53

here? Blah, blah, blah, you know Yeah,

6:56

I think that they've done a good

6:58

job just sort of identifying Like

7:00

what worked from the first one but making

7:02

the second one a little bit more depthy

7:04

like the assembly sound like such a dumb

7:06

small Add they're probably one of the best ads

7:08

in the game The first one may have had it

7:11

but it's been ages since I played and I don't

7:13

remember it hitting that well I just like assembling things

7:15

that aren't the house stuff and you know

7:17

It's like here's a desk and you're moving and they they

7:19

didn't just cheat it out and have you standing in front

7:21

of one desk It's like you might have a desk then

7:24

go to a wall Post the

7:26

frame on the wall then grab something else and

7:28

it just feels more like I put

7:30

the correct part in You know, yeah,

7:32

and you can fuck up the hammering like if you hit

7:34

it too hard, you know there's just little things to that

7:36

game that are awesome and then Let's

7:40

see we jumped into men we jumped into a

7:42

bunch of games I think we're gonna do some

7:44

fire pro wrestling in the next couple days Yeah,

7:47

stream chat. Yeah or a discord chat,

7:49

man. I want to thank you guys.

7:51

It's been Phenomenal last two weeks. We've

7:53

had just a crapload of people discord

7:55

lets you multi stream and

7:58

they fix the codecs. So it works really

8:00

well. And so you can go in there and have, admittedly

8:03

your CPU goes pretty high, so I've told people to

8:05

go to like 720p 30 because it's a small screen.

8:07

You're not looking at everybody's Discord screen at full speed.

8:11

So we started restricting

8:13

it because my CPU usage, I

8:15

was watching five people and streaming the finals

8:17

and my CPU usage was just 100%. It

8:20

never went down. I was like, oh, and I

8:22

was getting like frame rate drop. Streaming on Discord

8:24

is super heavy on the CPU. Really

8:27

it's somewhat heavy on the CPU. Yeah, for sure.

8:29

Unless you control it, but the big thing was

8:31

five streams. So in the past

8:33

I would have been impossible, but now they

8:35

fixed the codec. So it's more possible, but

8:37

still you got to sort of control it,

8:39

but it was, it was just a phenomenal

8:42

time. Like we stayed up. I

8:44

mean, I woke up super early one day and we played

8:46

for like 24 hours. And then the

8:48

next day we played for 18. Wannabe was in there

8:50

super late. He's playing around because his

8:52

partner's gone. So when she comes back,

8:54

I'm sure he'll play less. But there was

8:56

just people streaming all kinds of stuff. It was really,

8:58

really fun. I had all kinds of cool discussions. So

9:01

I just want to say thanks to the patrons that

9:03

lifted me up. Not that I was

9:05

down, but it was a cool change to the occasional

9:08

rat-a-tat-tat that happens in the Discord chat

9:10

versus everybody jumping in and being excited.

9:13

Speaking of that, let's get past this

9:15

bullshit. Let's

9:17

do a super chat and then we'll

9:19

jump into the first. So Brandon

9:22

Martin, $5 super chat. Hey, Carrick, I got

9:24

a Quest 2 for two, four, nine. Do you

9:26

have any game recommendations? RE4 on the Quest 2

9:28

is legit. Contractors

9:32

is great. The problem with the

9:34

Quest is that some of the games, if

9:37

you're doing the Quest itself and not

9:39

streaming from a PC, the graphics ones

9:42

I'm talking about are from the PC. So I'm trying

9:44

to think of games. I mean, Star Fleet, Star

9:47

Trek, whatever, Star Fleet, Bridge

9:49

Commander, I think, is awesome. Contractors

9:52

is awesome. Pavlov. Pavlov

9:54

and contractors. Yeah, but he's got good reviews

9:56

on the three. I

10:00

don't know what it looks because

10:02

he said to so I'm just trying to It

10:05

did get really good reviews I just don't know if

10:07

some of those reviews are wrapped around graphics because if

10:09

they were then the two is gonna be distinctly

10:11

a step down Yes, but that's

10:14

definitely and we'll talk about it's definitely one to

10:16

talk about in the next box streams

10:18

now you can watch like game

10:22

Cloud streaming from the Xbox in your

10:26

In your meta now, I don't know who anybody'd want to

10:28

do that man I was talking to a set from game

10:30

on it We were talking about

10:32

like the idea of watching a stream on

10:34

the cloud through your VR Seems

10:37

like you're just asking for 18 levels

10:39

of problems So I don't

10:41

know if I'd want to play a cloud game in my

10:44

VR because the latency from the VR

10:46

plus lately from cloud Oh, and

10:48

they're not the same thing You actually have two versions

10:50

of latency the one from the headset one from a

10:52

cloud Anybody who's done it if you like it. I'd

10:54

love to know I just Playing

10:57

a cloud-based game and VR sounds like

10:59

the torture, bro There's like latency and

11:01

you can feel it because you move

11:03

your head, right? So Yeah,

11:06

but at least with this it's

11:08

on the you know, it's a screen in front

11:10

of you because you're just playing Oh, you're not it's

11:12

you're not it's not Right.

11:15

Gotcha. Okay, that's that's better. It's better.

11:17

It's better. But I mean beep

11:20

Because it's a cloud so be prepped Jay

11:23

Reaper five dollars. I three scoped 360

11:27

no scope to deer you said that three times why we

11:29

were playing that you were gonna do that So now I

11:31

don't know if I'm supposed to believe you if you're

11:33

just continuing on Bryant says LOL ACG

11:35

podcast We're get into great topics such

11:37

as DRP. I was elk pee mind

11:39

you not DRP I'm

11:42

just saying you should know the difference So

11:44

if you're up in here in our in

11:46

our amazing work Or amazing

11:48

hunter chat five dollars super chat from Z just bought

11:50

an Xbox on top of having a PS 5 little

11:53

Christmas present to myself You

11:55

two recommend anything. I bought it mostly to

11:57

play gears and

12:03

Halo infinite is much better now has a

12:05

ton of of new mode Halo infinite's great

12:08

Horizon For

12:11

the you got a ton of game pass

12:14

You got a family partner. I'm a

12:16

card on game pass. Yeah, Liza P

12:18

is on game pass Liza

12:23

big you grew on me dude. I played it.

12:25

I played it more After

12:27

after I said I didn't like it the

12:29

first location just I think after

12:32

the first couple locations But

12:34

still very linear. It's not like it doesn't have the same

12:36

soul Liza P. Mmm.

12:38

Gotcha. So you like I tried more of it a

12:41

Little bit better because the main thing for me

12:43

was the location which just caused me to but

12:46

then later on it had more interesting Kind of

12:48

more detailed location, but it's still fairly fairly linear.

12:50

You know what I mean? There's like some rights

12:52

and left and shit, but it's not as Maisie

12:55

as soul. Yeah, usually. Yeah, I Mean

13:00

it is what it is. I'm not gonna return

13:02

to it I sort of like what I saw

13:04

but it wasn't enough to pull me in Yeah,

13:06

but you got that I mean

13:09

game pass alone is credit incredible But if you're

13:11

looking at like their main triples most of them

13:13

on game pass But if you want to buy

13:15

them, you know for the horizon, I can't speak

13:17

highly enough year six Five

13:19

I was said to say three, please And

13:22

I dedicate yeah state of decay to would be okay.

13:24

It's a little bit jank, but you could certainly try

13:26

it out I love it because I

13:28

can ignore the jank. What other ones for Xbox?

13:30

I could to coming in Grounded

13:34

yeah Psychonauts

13:36

to is one of the

13:39

best platformers Yeah,

13:41

my opinion it's literally like nothing wrong with it.

13:43

I don't even rate Numbered

13:45

and I would say yeah, then

13:48

there's nothing wrong with it. Like there's no

13:50

everything is perfectly crafted in that game It's

13:52

actually pretty insane. It's also not slept on

13:54

critically or even fan wise But I just

13:57

don't think it's sold as well as I

13:59

personally I believe it should have sold. I don't

14:01

know the sales. It's not going to sell as

14:03

well as a Mario for sure. But I mean,

14:05

I remember playing that for review and I

14:08

was like in the third level and I

14:10

was like, dude, every level's been in like,

14:13

this is ridiculous. The quality on every level

14:15

was ridiculous. And then you get into the

14:17

open world spot when you start running.

14:19

Oh, flight sim. Yeah. It feels

14:22

like they pulled a Nintendo, right? Like they

14:24

pulled a Nintendo. Like everything is just crafted

14:26

so perfectly. I would say Psychonauts is equal

14:28

to many top tier Nintendo games without any

14:31

hesitation. It is that good. It

14:33

is freakish. Psychonauts was, is

14:35

Psychonauts Xbox exclusive or is that? I

14:37

don't know, but it's on Game Pass.

14:39

So for some reason I thought that was like

14:41

one of the last ones to go. I

14:44

think it is. Isn't it? Okay.

14:47

I could be wrong. Yeah. Well,

14:49

I mean, I didn't know for, yeah, Bramble is another one.

14:51

Bramble's on a bunch of things. It's on PS4. It's

14:54

on PS4. Psychonauts. Psychonauts

14:56

2, yeah. Yeah. That's what

14:58

I thought was that it wasn't exclusive. That it was

15:01

like their last title or something. Yeah. Yeah.

15:04

But I think it is owned by MS, right? Yeah. Yeah.

15:06

But just like We Happy For You when they

15:08

bought company, you know, they bought companies

15:10

that were still, there were still job

15:13

deals that needed to be. Yeah.

15:15

Xbox Game Studios published it. Yep.

15:19

Psychonauts 1 worth playing. It's

15:21

good, but it's rough, man. SBZ

15:23

says Abzi has the stuff he knows he does. He

15:26

said he had a cold start. No, I just talked this way.

15:28

I changed my identity. I changed my brand name. Yeah. He

15:31

came into Boyz Chat yesterday and it sounded

15:33

like he was either insanely high or completely

15:36

thick as a dog. Very thick. And

15:38

on campaign last night, painkillers too. Yeah.

15:41

Yeah. I mean, the only stuff that really works for

15:43

me is the stuff that also makes me like

15:46

airy. Like I wouldn't be able to do a podcast if

15:49

I was, you know, crapped up on it.

15:51

Yeah. And it's a little bit

15:53

rough when you start swallowing a bunch of those,

15:55

you know, like antihistamines that get through the blood

15:57

brain barrier and suddenly you're like, whoo. I'm

16:00

seeing I'm seeing spiders in

16:02

my room Canadian show podcast at 3

16:05

a.m. Both. No, we should Fuck

16:07

we didn't question that we've got

16:10

Let's see John bat says

16:12

what is your spirit animals? Same

16:17

What the fuck dude spam is amazing.

16:19

You just don't want to see what goes into it and

16:21

that's sort of like me That's

16:23

my spirit. I'm spam. It's delicious. No matter

16:25

what it just doesn't look the best We

16:29

delicious dude spam you ever had

16:31

a fried spam sandwich fried some

16:33

animal though Us man, I

16:35

feel like a lemon meats It's

16:37

random. No lie. I can tell you I'm not

16:39

gonna but I could explain how it's pulled off

16:41

the animal and it's disgusting Yeah,

16:44

all the meats that you can't name like what

16:46

I mean is like there's a flank steak. Here

16:48

is a Roast here's

16:50

a ribs. This is like a

16:52

left. This is the same as in what is

16:54

left of life? So you didn't

16:57

invest in one stock invested in like

16:59

an ETF to diversify. Yeah. Yeah, spam

17:01

is a diversified stock Spam

17:06

and eggs, so that's my spirit animal what yours Fuckin

17:12

Yours could be like dopey the dwarf right

17:14

now cuz it could be a human I

17:20

Generic lowbrow human can

17:22

I do can I just choose like, you know somebody

17:24

who works out in the fields? I'll do him to

17:26

the koala right now. I'm feeling like a koala right

17:28

now Right. Well, there's a good

17:31

laid back laid back hand hand

17:33

says Carrick. Did you see the Did

17:36

you see the Ramboholic Pandora

17:38

review it seemed all over the

17:40

place. How do you see reviews like that? What

17:43

that review? Rambla

17:45

Rambla Rambla Rambla holic Rambla

17:49

holic focus Ramble holic. I don't know what

17:51

that is It

17:54

seemed all over the place. How do you see

17:56

reviews like that? I don't I

17:58

don't know. I'm sorry I don't know what

18:01

that is, but when you look

18:03

at reviews, you know, everybody says as long

18:06

as it's a review of the game And not just

18:08

a bullshit like some people are just doing full crap

18:10

takes and it's it's for

18:12

comedic sake That's one thing that as

18:15

long as it's a full review by somebody, you

18:17

know, who's actually explaining real issues It

18:19

was funny though I started to see on

18:22

a couple reviews where people were going back

18:24

who had played Pandora and they were going

18:26

back to multiple reviews posting going like this

18:28

review is Actually, I originally agreed

18:30

with this but it's like now that I played it.

18:32

They're like actually not at all what

18:34

this person said You know how much misinformation I

18:36

see there was a lot of Little

18:39

person I've seen on Twitter right and they go

18:41

like why the fuck do you play this shit?

18:43

It's literally far cry and when I see that

18:45

I'm like, oh you haven't played it. Yeah, you

18:47

think it's like far cry It was very like

18:49

very interesting to see sort of the only the

18:52

only thing that's similar to far cry is the

18:54

fact that it's first Person dude, literally the only

18:56

thing I came and think of like, oh you

18:58

move around an open world in first person far

19:00

cry Right, there's like outposts and shit. I guess

19:02

you could say far cry. But like everything outside

19:05

of that is completely different It's more of like

19:07

a survival kind of game, too Yeah, it's very

19:09

much leans more towards survival and I would say

19:11

the more the bigger thing is that it matches

19:13

open world First

19:15

person shooters more than it does just far cry.

19:18

It feels like a Sort of

19:20

a diversion from that which is pretty good Um,

19:23

so sorry, that's the date. I've got Jason

19:25

of the Argon knots Bobby left

19:28

earlier than expected Do you think that's Microsoft's

19:30

work? We can talk about that so

19:32

if anybody didn't see the news this morning December

19:34

29th one day after my birthday old Bobby

19:36

Kotick is Ejecting

19:39

he's ejaculating out of Microsoft

19:42

with no news or

19:44

activism, but with no new fills up from

19:46

before Like they also built in January. So

19:48

this is like the day. Oh, yeah earlier

19:51

I guess earlier. Yeah, you know He's

19:54

had people don't like him Yeah,

19:57

a lot of a lot of controversy a lot of shittiness

19:59

lot of Whatever do I think

20:01

it's Microsoft's doing no, I think Bobby was probably

20:03

at a position. No, I was already on the

20:06

way Oh, he had already said it. Yeah. Yeah,

20:08

it's a little like whenever anybody says Jim Ryan

20:10

is fired I'm like, dude, he's still working there

20:12

like We really need

20:14

to use proper, you know burbing

20:16

replacing him for a body So

20:19

yeah booty Matt booty is now over not

20:21

would be for major studios four or five

20:23

major studios Yeah, so he's in control of

20:26

a lot of stuff. I

20:28

did try to show anybody It's not like he's

20:30

the lead It's not like you every day is

20:32

waking up looking at you know At the levels

20:34

of design and telling everybody if it's okay or

20:36

not. He's booty up there man Like

20:39

he's super high the booty is tight and high

20:42

in the in the Microsoft in the

20:44

Microsoft tree But

20:46

but for what it's worth I think it

20:48

shows a lizard way way past

20:51

way past the Bobby Coteau It's not Bobby

20:53

Coteau like all fall everything

20:55

shit. I don't think he's like the one

20:57

person that's like making everything shit Yeah, there's

20:59

a lot of incompetence like you can see

21:02

there's a lot of very clear incompetence You

21:04

can see a difference between like those those

21:08

Not Australia was a New Zealand Path

21:11

of Exile Devs kind of talk about their games and how

21:13

they showcase it and then you can see like Blizzard that's

21:15

kind of Showcase showcasing the game

21:17

and and there's like a huge dissonance of

21:19

like people that understand the games and

21:22

people that don't understand the games There's

21:24

like a lot of a lot of stuff a lot

21:26

of stuff there. Yeah I wouldn't expect

21:28

any major like magical Like

21:31

games aren't gonna magically be better. It's gonna take

21:33

your four years the other stuff that people have

21:36

issues with Internally

21:38

that one person's gone, but I

21:40

have no clue if you know, there's multiple

21:42

people around there that have issues as well

21:45

So yeah, unless like they make like a

21:47

huge effort for change management to like completely

21:49

revamp maybe company culture and

21:51

and and retrain and like just spend a

21:53

lot of money on That

21:56

type of stuff I could see I could see I see

21:59

it changing with new management if they do those things.

22:01

So I don't know what their plans are. It

22:04

also depends because, so for example, in

22:06

the old days you'd hear 2.0. Which

22:08

was a disaster for anybody who worked at a company.

22:11

You'd be working at a company, you'd wake up in the

22:13

morning happy to go to work and somebody would be like,

22:15

welcome to blah, blah, blah, 2.0. And that meant everybody was

22:17

going to retrain and they were going to fail. They

22:19

were switching shit. And it was pretty much all the way. But

22:22

if you want a true switch, it would

22:24

require not only training, but a lot

22:26

of companies don't realize that it requires

22:28

like, sometimes a psychologist or sometimes a

22:30

work psychologist or sometimes managers who

22:33

their only job is to continue to

22:35

watch things for years. Because you could

22:37

do a training once. And dude,

22:40

I've seen it. I've seen sex… Change managers,

22:42

right? Yeah, I've seen

22:44

sex harassment training where one day…

22:47

Dude, I saw one where I had a

22:49

training. There was somebody doing it. And

22:51

you know the person who was hired was some Joe

22:54

Bob from some company training. It wasn't even working for

22:56

him. So he's just like, I'm here to do my

22:58

eight hours of training for you guys. And leave, yeah.

23:01

They usually have like a time slot. They're like, oh, you

23:03

have to do four hours of this. Sign a piece of

23:06

paper and then you understand everything in a row. You need

23:08

somebody to be there and be like, all right, things that

23:10

you don't even think of. But what I was going to

23:12

say also, that has to

23:14

be everybody agreeing on the new vision. And

23:16

no human currently just look on the internet,

23:18

just look in our Discord even, look anywhere.

23:21

Nobody agrees on everything. So it's some… You're

23:23

always going to have an issue. So with

23:26

change management, like, yeah, there's like unfreezing and then

23:28

the change and then there's refreezing, right? And the

23:30

unfreezing phase is I think the hardest phase because,

23:32

yeah, as you said, there's a lot of different

23:34

people. There's going to be old timers and they're

23:36

used to the old ways and they don't want

23:38

to change. And there's going to be new people

23:40

and then… And they won't change quickly, right? There's

23:43

a lot of somebody have to do compromises. They won't change

23:45

fast. The other ones are like, well, let me change. It's

23:47

so tough to unfreeze. That's a weird situation. Yeah, so tough.

23:50

But yeah, he's leaving. Do I think it was Microsoft? No. It

23:53

was… I mean, the announcement was already out there. So

23:56

it is what it is. And to be honest, I think a lot

23:58

of these times, unless they're direct leads in a… Companies

24:01

direct game architecture like they're a lead

24:03

for GTA 6 as we've talked before

24:05

about people leaving that Matters

24:07

more than him. I think that You

24:11

know the internal stuff just like Ubisoft they

24:13

can do a lot of changes But until

24:15

some very big changes occur some

24:18

of the same complaints always be there tuba of

24:20

flesh says tuba flesh that

24:22

does remind me of spam of a flesh

24:24

says insomniac made 567

24:27

dollars on sunset overdrive and by the way, that's one

24:29

of the few times I'll ever read an exact from

24:31

these leaks. I guess you're right about the game seriously

24:33

though any hope for a sequel Dude

24:40

We didn't know what it sold, but I think

24:42

everybody knew you know there's some games that you

24:44

just You

24:46

sort of look at and you're like they're Marvel

24:48

devs now Yeah

24:51

Aside from maybe ratchet and clank.

24:54

Yeah, no that's true Marvel making

24:56

the moolah Yeah, they'll be doing

24:58

that and I think why return to sunset

25:00

overdrive when I admit it a

25:02

lot of people There's a

25:04

niche group who liked it, but when you look at

25:06

that kind of stuff It's obvious that a lot of

25:08

people didn't you know it didn't resonate Yeah,

25:11

it also didn't resonate with fails. I'm assuming

25:13

you know there's like maybe at the time

25:15

of the Xbox Bro,

25:17

yeah, what's the Xbox? Well

25:20

the Xbox tax man I didn't know what the

25:23

f the Xbox tax was forever and then I

25:25

saw people saying that like there's no such thing

25:27

and I'm like dude Don't

25:30

put down your foot and say there's no

25:32

such thing as a favoritism towards a specific

25:34

thing that is built favorable consumer Like

25:36

allegiance more consumers have one

25:38

thing Obviously the one thing is gonna be

25:40

more favorable than the thing that not a

25:43

lot of consumers have and that's All the

25:45

news websites that's what cater to the most

25:47

consumers and since most consumers have Sony and

25:49

not X It's so it's so easy to

25:51

it's very very straightforward like it's not even

25:53

a conspiracy You know, I mean, it's like

25:55

that's no it's really how much

25:57

does it affect? It's not that it

26:00

It's just it's sort of like not win or

26:02

not not if but when it's like not

26:05

if but how much how much

26:07

yeah Tilted

26:09

token five dollars super chat out before we

26:11

paid vacation starting Thursday plan on tackling some

26:13

of my backlog currently working on South Park

26:16

stick Of truth happy holidays did

26:18

South Park The South Park

26:20

games are great and I think you might as well

26:22

see those two because the new one looks balls Now

26:25

the new one looks so bad. No the

26:27

first two are really awesome. They're like turn-based

26:29

You know if you like to be G3

26:32

you like it's like be G3 Yeah,

26:35

yeah, if you like if you like the Lord

26:37

of the Rings three-person character smasher, you might like

26:39

this one Yeah, it just looks like it has

26:41

no It

26:43

it went from being like this is

26:46

a cartoon. This is the cartoon to

26:48

this is the exact kind of smash-up

26:50

bullshit We got ps2 360 days when

26:53

people were throwing titles Here's

26:56

all these get all these characters and they're fighting.

26:58

Yeah, yeah, like some turned out good You'd be

27:00

playing like a Gex or whatever, but then you

27:02

play Croc the

27:04

crocodile on you're like seriously dude. Somebody just called

27:06

it croc and made a Snow

27:11

day is fully 3d and looks boring. Yes, it

27:14

does. That's what we're talking about. It's it's rough

27:16

those first two Yeah, look like cartoons. I

27:18

they feel like they're missing a different company, right?

27:22

Yeah, definitely. No, it was the first two

27:24

Ubisoft. There will be softer right? Yeah, I

27:27

believe so Yeah,

27:30

yeah, I believe so. Well the obsidian.

27:32

No, they were obsidian. Okay. Yeah, one

27:34

of them. Yeah crazy It's an

27:36

obsidian game. So Long

27:38

story short. It looks like it looks pretty rough.

27:41

I mean I'll play anything it could just you

27:43

know It could be really

27:45

early and this could be just like hey, here's

27:47

some idea. There's no way right? There's no way

27:49

I look at it and I'm like, there's nothing

27:51

there. You know the man maybe I don't know

27:53

Well, I don't die too much into the stuff

27:56

that we've seen some of that stuff rough. So

27:58

it's just like how early is something Because

28:01

that's one of the reasons why

28:03

any company doesn't want some of their early alphas Data

28:06

going out is because that shit's not there to

28:08

be it's not there for public, you know consumption

28:10

It's not there to be like hey, dude. Let's

28:12

show off this at e3 It's like here's the

28:14

general idea of character sizes and shit like there's

28:17

no plan to make sure it works Perfect, so

28:19

maybe that's what it was, but they're the ones

28:21

who made a trailer and put it out. Yeah,

28:23

I guess it's on them right Obsidian

28:26

did the first one. Thanks Julian appreciate it

28:29

um the Insomniac leak confirms

28:32

that That he is

28:34

Jim Lyon Ryan. He had Sony fans

28:36

proclaiming Activision deals anti-consumer Jim was tilling

28:38

the courts ABK is anti-consumer and all

28:41

because of fear He's

28:44

doing what a company CEO should do man Yeah,

28:46

you know as much as I dislike what was

28:49

going on I was looking at the stuff that

28:51

Jim was doing I was like dude. That's exactly

28:53

his job as a CEO Just me the other

28:55

company and it's just the

28:57

way it is like it's but I was watching it

28:59

going Yep as

29:01

as somebody who deals in like company dynamics

29:04

and looking at dealing with my competition. I

29:06

was like dude. That's You

29:08

know, that's all you got left in your artillery

29:10

for this particular moment and and stymie it and

29:13

cost you a bunch of money That's the way

29:15

it goes. What's up? ABI plays green Oh obsidian

29:17

made stick of truth Oh, yeah, stick of truth

29:19

was the better one, right? Yeah, was it? Yes,

29:21

I think the truth was the first one Yeah,

29:25

and then you had one sort of destiny

29:27

or stick of truth fractured but whole but

29:29

I actually enjoyed I liked fractured But whole

29:31

I had like a What

29:34

do you call it tactical elements to the to the

29:36

combat like you could move your guys Right.

29:39

I like both of them. I thought I like

29:41

both a lot I like to go truth more

29:43

about but I like both of them. I like

29:45

the D&D one more. That's Is

29:49

a D&D no D&D is stick of truth. Yeah stick

29:52

of truth is D&D. Yeah. Yeah I like the anyone

29:54

a little bit more of both were great. I

29:57

think I thought both were the I know the first one

29:59

I remember clean Clearly that you go off to

30:01

that tent and you choose your class and all that stuff. I

30:04

forgot if the butthole was the ND. Yeah,

30:08

I don't know. Lombardi says, does anybody know how to get

30:10

rid of the emoji thing at the bottom right of chat

30:12

that blocks my screen? Oh, it's so annoying, dude. How the

30:14

f... I don't know what he's talking about. I

30:16

don't have one. It is like a heart on the

30:18

bottom right. Oh, yeah. Make the screen bigger

30:21

or smaller. Scale on your browser. Yeah, scale on

30:23

your browser. We'll move it. Obviously.

30:25

Jesus. Yep. Maybe

30:28

not. So moving on from there.

30:31

Yes. And that question at

30:33

least. Yeah. So

30:36

the leaks happened so that anybody

30:38

who doesn't know because we've had a complaint before that we

30:40

don't sit and read all the fucking news and it's like

30:43

that's not really what this is about but I'm going to

30:45

explain this one. Insomniac

30:47

had ransomware files. They refused to

30:49

pay. I believe it's two million

30:53

or at least now we know they refused to pay

30:55

because yesterday morning? Maybe

30:58

even the day before it's been a lot of news this

31:00

week. Yesterday. Yeah, yesterday. A

31:02

ton of data flooded the internet.

31:05

Everything from just all kinds of crazy stuff.

31:10

One of the things that I took out of it, I was

31:12

talking to Cadiz about this in chat and then we went and

31:14

worked out. One of the things I explained to him

31:16

is so you

31:18

get charged by ransomware. One of

31:21

the things you have to worry about isn't you have to

31:23

worry about all the stuff. You have to worry about doxie

31:25

and of employees. All this terrible shit that is just unacceptable.

31:27

I've heard other people say that doxie is

31:29

okay. You get the political. No, no, no, no,

31:31

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

31:33

no, no, no, knock that shit off. That's unacceptable.

31:37

That kind of stuff. But another thing you got to worry

31:39

about is what data is it giving to your

31:42

competitor. Competition. And one

31:44

of the things this does lead is competitors

31:46

know that at a particular time the alignment

31:49

for titles or the alignment for something is

31:51

going a certain way. And

31:53

then if you have dates and stuff to talk

31:55

about that, then you have those competitors able

31:58

to at least look and say, just like that. Generally,

32:00

their plan is this. So

32:03

I think that helps third-party companies and

32:05

competitors in that way. It's just terrible

32:07

regardless. Like ransomware is one of the

32:10

dirtiest, grossest things ever, man. Like it's

32:12

just... Yeah, 100%. Oh, dude, it's

32:14

so nasty. They should have

32:16

outbid the fucking dude though. Like 2 million, they should have

32:18

just outbid it. They should have just outbid it. You mean

32:20

trying to get somebody to give them the key and outbid

32:22

it? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, because it

32:25

got sold for 2 million. I think a little bit more than

32:27

2 million. I think they could have easily... It would have been

32:29

like a drop in the bucket for them. Well, now that we

32:31

know how much they fucking make. But

32:33

don't you say, like I think they

32:35

should have done that. But obviously I'm not... I'm with the

32:37

devs. I love that. Like seriously, I'm

32:39

sorry for everything that happened. I'm

32:41

not going to blame... I'm not blaming them right now. You

32:43

know, it's the hacker's fault. It's shitty,

32:45

but yeah, they should have bought it. They

32:48

should have bought it. Well, I don't know if bought it,

32:50

but I do know that a lot of hacker companies will

32:52

sell the keys and sometimes in the hospitals near us,

32:54

one got ransomware and another hacker

32:56

group found out it got right in somewhere

32:58

and gave them the key. And was like,

33:00

dude, we do not under any circumstances go

33:02

after hospitals or anything like that.

33:05

Now, admittedly, we can all argue about morals because

33:07

it's like, you don't go after that, but you

33:09

go after this, which still affects this group. You

33:11

know, it's like, it's sort of the fake morals

33:13

that you get in movies and shit like that.

33:16

But nothing's great. It just absolutely

33:19

sucks and it hurts. The

33:21

thing is, man, is it

33:24

just messes up. I mean, it's great to talk about

33:26

it's fun to talk about new stuff that you're hearing

33:28

coming up, but it sucks for everybody working on it.

33:30

It sucks to have I saw this yesterday,

33:32

man. And I got to tell you, I jump in

33:34

now and discord every time I see this because it

33:36

pisses me off because I know people work in the

33:38

industry. They'll be like leaks are on

33:40

purpose. It's all for PR. And I'm like, you have

33:42

no fucking clue how many people have lost their jobs

33:44

over leaks. It is a ton

33:47

of money for a leak. The leak is not.

33:50

They'll be like, oh, it's garnering excitement.

33:52

No, it's not. Have you guys

33:54

really positive? I almost never do I see

33:56

a positive reinforcement for

33:58

a leak. There's different for

34:00

GTA but prior to that there were people

34:03

leaking the GTA gameplay and all

34:05

the responses were like this looks terrible There's a girl in

34:07

it Dude

34:10

you don't understand nobody wants this it just

34:12

it does not make sense We've heard it

34:14

in the past where like you

34:17

sometimes you'll see a company leak something in

34:19

the hope to get traction to see if

34:21

something's Interesting to people yeah, but when it's

34:23

like here's some footage or whatever Nobody

34:26

wants that because that footage is it's

34:28

like beta gameplay It's like terrible

34:31

game pre alpha. Yeah, it's fucked.

34:33

Yeah people saying like oh So

34:36

stupid like obviously the pre alpha footage like they

34:38

have no right and also I want to clarify

34:40

like the the paying thing That I said earlier

34:44

People are saying okay if you pay You

34:47

know they'll do it. They'll do it again because

34:49

you paid well They already made two million dollars

34:51

that they made the money that you know they're

34:53

nothing stopping them other another thing

34:55

I see is oh they would have just made

34:58

copies and sold no hacker groups typically don't want

35:00

that because they want us they want To have

35:02

that leverage yeah, yeah Yeah,

35:06

but they do that is like pretty

35:09

much regardless if and

35:11

that's why I said it just it sucks No matter

35:13

what because once you're in that boat. This is why

35:15

companies You know we've

35:17

seen Sony get hacked multiple times. We've seen

35:19

Microsoft occasionally. We just saw Comcast Yesterday

35:22

with a massive hack including

35:24

possibly like last digits of

35:27

Social Security numbers all kinds of crazy shit these

35:30

companies I'm not saying

35:32

they all don't prepare because we were at a

35:34

prepared company and still got hacked We were really

35:36

prepared and it still got hacked it got hacked

35:38

using a mix of human Socials as well as

35:40

all this other stuff. It's always a race. Yeah,

35:43

yeah, and It

35:46

just sucks technologies where it is right now But

35:48

these companies are probably gonna start putting up You

35:50

know you're gonna get these crazy two factors as

35:53

employees where you know because when at our job

35:55

There was just the you'd walk in

35:57

windows, and you'd sign in now

36:01

You walk in, you have two factor for your own

36:03

sign in and you're just going to need more and

36:05

more of that and you're going to have these companies

36:07

that they really need to have their shit air

36:10

gapped. That doesn't even fix everything, but

36:12

it certainly would fix 99% of

36:14

these where somebody grabs a random USB and

36:17

get that. Or post it. No,

36:20

yeah. Dude, in my old

36:22

job, we went to a change

36:24

every three months and we warned

36:26

them, the tech team warned them. The tech team was

36:29

like, okay, listen, we're going to change every

36:31

three months. And if you look at the statistics,

36:33

people have a very difficult time remembering their passwords

36:35

every three months. So what they'll do is they'll

36:37

not have to remember it. They'll get tired of

36:39

it. Did we have every

36:42

day minimum five people's passwords on yellow

36:44

stick at notes on their desk? So

36:46

then we had to go and we had to retrain them. So here's what they

36:48

did. They put another stick at note

36:50

over the stick at note that put that passwords

36:53

on it. And they said like computer

36:55

in use, do not touch, but

36:57

then utter it was the password. And it's like

37:00

a survival horror game. Or they put like, where

37:02

I left my password. Where you have

37:04

to line up the camera perfectly to see the

37:06

password. Just like, or where you go and all

37:08

the digits are clean. But the

37:10

four they use for their key, five, four,

37:12

one, six, because those are the only clean

37:15

keys on the keyboard. It's

37:18

there's there needs to be a ton. This

37:20

isn't blaming the victims because this is a,

37:23

it's a sad place every human's in right now, but there

37:25

needs to be a ton of two factor that's

37:27

accurate and easy for the employee, whether it be

37:29

thumbs, you know, thumbprints, you know, that kind of

37:31

stuff figured out because a lot of these companies

37:33

still don't have it. But yeah,

37:36

man, it sucks. It sucks because a lot

37:39

of the surprises that they wanted to announce

37:41

are gone. Now competitors know at least a

37:43

good number of what they're doing as well

37:45

as financials. And then of course the employee

37:47

data, which is okay. The license

37:49

terms. Yeah. It's like that

37:51

kind of stuff, whatever. It's like whenever, whenever you

37:53

get like any personal data, you know, somebody will

37:56

say they can be doxed. Well humans, I mean,

37:58

for what is it? 35 bucks. You can go

38:00

online and buy a private investigator to like

38:02

look at it. So it's like yeah Probably

38:05

it's just easier to see that but you

38:07

can docs a lot of people but yeah

38:09

it blows It just yeah as a whole

38:11

the risk assessment document That's like what like

38:14

that was a damning thing the risk assessments

38:16

are the super confident Those are

38:18

those documents are like high level confidential. Yeah, you

38:20

know, yeah, it's crazy I don't and I don't

38:22

know I mean especially security somebody said Carrick knows

38:24

what he's talking about with ransomware We need to

38:27

hire you. It's like I would never want to

38:29

work on that kind of stuff Yes, I do

38:31

know it and it's haunting. It's

38:33

like when you get the blame. Oh Yeah,

38:36

but I mean just knowing how people do

38:38

stuff. I'm like, oh my god No wonder

38:40

Joe Blow randomly gets hacked like they're there

38:42

you have a hundred people aiming at you.

38:44

There's no way to win we've talked about

38:46

that comparing one game to a

38:48

hundred that game will lose because Game

38:51

has the better of each version of what they're

38:53

trying to do. It's the same way with the

38:55

password Yeah, if it's just one poor human who's

38:57

out there with this little last pass and then

38:59

last pass gets hacked Remember when last basket there

39:01

the third of the damn password people and

39:03

they're the one Everybody

39:06

said use a password manager. So people are

39:08

like, okay, and do you know all the

39:10

ransomware people did was go? All right. Well,

39:12

then we'll just hack the actual password companies.

39:14

Yeah. Yeah. Oh man It's

39:17

a killer. It's rough on people. So

39:20

yeah, it sucks overall. I Think

39:23

that we'll see some locking down of data We're

39:25

gonna see a lot more I've talked about this

39:27

before, you know when I review a game or

39:29

preview game Sometimes my name will be watermarked on

39:31

all over the screen. That's a not a new

39:33

thing But in the last four years I've seen

39:36

it a couple times There's other tricks that they

39:38

do that I'm not gonna talk about the only

39:40

reason I'm talking about that one is it's out

39:42

You can see it on trailers Sorry,

39:44

not trailers, but you can see it in YouTube, but

39:46

there's some other tricks that I found out there for

39:49

really intelligent Like one

39:51

of the guys who had worked at one of the big

39:53

three was like hey Here's a couple things that in the

39:55

past there's been discussion about

39:57

trying to find footage that leaks

39:59

and I'm like Dude, I

40:01

don't know if anybody would be able to figure

40:03

that out, but you would be able to tell

40:05

right away Whose it was like there's data, you

40:07

know, there's stuff in in footage. That's pretty

40:10

intelligent very smart way. Yeah If

40:15

you guys have questions actually It

40:17

doesn't have to be super chat super chats are appreciated, but it doesn't

40:19

have to be if you have questions about this leak We're not gonna

40:22

dive in because You

40:25

know, I'll cover it as normal, but I

40:27

think that yeah You don't want to talk about

40:29

anything detailed right? I don't yeah And oh and

40:31

by the way somebody was asking me why do

40:33

I believe that this is being handled

40:35

differently than the other companies? It

40:39

is I think that one people

40:42

are getting tired of it It happens once six

40:44

months goes by people don't really think much about

40:46

it happens a second time within three months people

40:48

start talking about it And thinking about it more

40:50

Opens again and again and again or happens to

40:53

somebody you know, and then suddenly things matter more

40:55

It's like when somebody tells you their family member died

40:57

You're like, man, I'm really sure to hear that and

40:59

you feel empty. But when your family member dies, it's

41:01

a whole other ballgame It's a connect of yours and

41:03

so I see that I

41:05

also see we talked about this almost two years ago

41:08

where I was like, dude This happens every time a

41:10

bunch of these people who cover rumors and news and

41:12

stuff like that will will just Whether

41:14

they're fame horn or where they're you

41:17

know, trying to get social love. They'll be like I'm

41:19

not gonna cover this one because Fabulous

41:21

and you're like, oh god Lee just you

41:23

can't itemize you either just choose to do

41:25

it Oh the people saying like oh these

41:28

guys look at these people covering it They're

41:30

just virtual signaling and trying to be like

41:32

like oh look at me. I'm like morally

41:34

righteous There's while also promoting the people like

41:36

they'd have like a screenshot of like I'd

41:38

you know all those stuff of these articles

41:41

saying I can't believe you're but

41:43

you're covering that they're covering it. So yeah people

41:46

So it's so stupid. Obviously, it's news. Obviously

41:48

consumers are gonna want to know about it

41:50

They already know about it. They're already looking

41:52

for it and obviously companies

41:54

and Want to

41:56

cover that story? It's a massive story and they

41:59

want readers It's so simple. It's

42:01

it's it's yeah They don't know by

42:03

the way we thought somebody said this is

42:05

because it's Sony I can actually prove

42:08

Not prove I can point out that it's

42:10

not just Sony and it's not just that

42:12

when the GTA stuff happened There was a

42:15

number of people that were incredibly mad the

42:17

trailer leaked that were Normal

42:19

folks like in our discord. It is not

42:21

just because it's Sony I do believe that

42:23

people know some of them they see him

42:26

as wholesome. There's more of that That's

42:29

fine. That's how that's how it builds up is that

42:31

you start to protect your family then you That's

42:35

the way it is I don't it doesn't make sense

42:37

to me I'm just like why don't we protect everybody

42:39

day one, but nobody would do that so

42:43

It'll take a little while, but I get I

42:45

think we're starting to see it pop up more picture

42:47

the same thing happening to Ubisoft Picture

42:50

that world picture Twitter when that happens to

42:53

Ubisoft I doubt I Know

42:55

me maybe I don't know No,

42:58

no, first thing I did was made a list of

43:00

everybody saying what they said took pictures of Twitter This

43:04

and it's not because I feel but I'm gonna

43:06

cover the same way and I don't know know

43:08

if my way is better So it

43:10

had nothing to do with better, but what it

43:12

has to do with the shifting of priorities depending

43:14

on Depending on

43:16

blank subject depending on what company depending on what game

43:18

would do Yeah So I am tracking what you just

43:21

said but we've been tracking it for a year because

43:23

we talked about this last year Where I was like

43:25

there's a difference in coverage For

43:28

a Ubisoft game than there is for something else.

43:30

There's an expectation of almost a Ubisoft tax. Yeah,

43:32

I Mean

43:38

So we could open a moldy

43:40

muffin $5 looking forward to the

43:42

discussion today. Cheers. Thank you very much, man Hopefully

43:45

we keep you somewhat Intertained sailor

43:47

mercury says how do you feel about the leaks

43:49

on spider-man and some I'm just gonna say some

43:52

adjustments if somebody didn't read that Some adjustments to

43:54

how it might be delivered. I have no issue

43:56

with that We haven't

43:58

got the games. I don't I

44:00

will rate the game in whatever way I get it. We

44:04

saw Avengers had 20 movies. It felt

44:06

like felt like the Avengers Were

44:08

like in the hundreds or if you like Warhammer

44:10

40k the Horace heresy Which was like it went

44:13

from just a couple books like I don't know

44:15

there is a decology now or something Yeah, that

44:17

does definitely have to do something to like spice

44:19

up spider-man. I think for a third one They

44:23

definitely have to like here's my spice

44:26

Yeah Well,

44:28

that's yeah, I think there was a multiplayer

44:30

thing, right? I don't know. I didn't look I

44:33

truly didn't I saw I got all of them I

44:35

looked generally at some of the numbers and terms I

44:37

saw there was too much info and I was like

44:39

first of all some of It'll change because of this.

44:41

Yeah, some of it will change because So

44:44

yeah, I just looked at a couple things. I was

44:46

like, whatever So I think that co-op is the way

44:49

to go i've talked about it in spider-man 2 like

44:51

I wanted spider-man 2 to have it So i'm just

44:53

like co-op would be the big change up for me.

44:55

It'd be the exciting one for me. I would love

44:57

to see I I have a I

45:00

have a thing man. Like i'm wondering. Um,

45:02

what what do you think is gonna happen

45:04

to like? You

45:07

know third person melee games Do

45:10

they need like do they need like an evolution

45:12

or a next thing or like do you think

45:14

they're good where they are? Do you

45:16

think each game does something? Like

45:19

there's some there's some they're they're all they all

45:21

boil down to attacking and dodging now Obviously they're

45:23

different in ways, but I feel like there's a

45:25

lot of same in the sameness in a lot

45:27

of things Obviously

45:30

spider-man has its own thing going because of its

45:32

like acrobatic Ness and shit like that

45:34

like other footage i'm seeing and uh, you know

45:36

god of war and all those and then you

45:38

got like the soul side stuff, do you think

45:40

they're the There's

45:43

gonna be a thing where something is gonna like drastically

45:45

change the way You know,

45:47

these third person games are no especially

45:49

for sony And

45:53

I don't think it's needed you and

45:55

I yeah are getting older every single day

45:57

there are new people coming into the environment who

46:00

have not played those. We had

46:02

about a two hour discussion in chat

46:04

about just what you're mentioning, because Spider-Man

46:06

and Horizon, Forbidden West both saw a

46:08

slight push towards, they

46:10

feel a little samey. Yeah. You know what?

46:13

Well Horizon's very unique though. But Forbidden

46:15

West was still Horizon Zero Dawn 2. Doesn't

46:18

matter if it was unique. Sure. There

46:20

was still this desire to see a slight change by

46:22

old folks, but new people, that was their first one.

46:24

They were like, this is amazing. We also

46:26

thought with Red Dead 2, we had

46:29

people up in arms about mission structure. They're like,

46:31

oh my God, mission structure. There isn't that. Gaming

46:35

is huge and that is a growth spurt that's massive.

46:37

The growth spurt in gaming is bigger than in the

46:39

industry. And I think that what we're seeing is growth

46:42

pains. You know, it's like scoliosis when you're a kid,

46:44

if you go too many inches. It's

46:46

just not gonna be aligned for many

46:48

years. And we lived in this linear

46:50

path, man. Everything was like, go

46:53

back for the longest time. One

46:55

console game, one controller, every single console.

46:57

That's what you got. Then

46:59

it went to, we're gonna make sure there's three

47:02

types of games, but you're just gonna get

47:04

the console and one controller. And then it went

47:06

to digital. And digital changed the way we patch

47:08

games, the way we deliver games, the way

47:10

you fix games, the way you have service games.

47:13

But the long story short is once digital

47:15

came into it, and once deals

47:17

and subscriptions came in, the growth is massive

47:20

in gaming. I mean, billions upon billions upon

47:22

billions upon billions of dollars. And that means

47:24

more people that have never played these. And

47:27

in a weird way, you could say these

47:29

games you and I may play and go, okay, it

47:32

didn't iterate too much. Is

47:34

another person's first fucking day. And that's

47:36

like, that's their tutorial into third party.

47:39

Say the entire game's like a tutorial, like,

47:41

hey man, this is your tutorial into open

47:43

world racing. Or is that not your tutorial?

47:46

Here's your tutorial into a third person

47:48

action game. Spiderman. That,

47:51

I do not want to go away. Now,

47:53

will some company try to change it

47:55

up? Yes, some companies. There will

47:57

be a random company that does something different that's

47:59

happening. forever. I'm not saying like everyone should

48:01

innovate you know what I mean? I'm just saying

48:04

if there's because like go back

48:06

to like the export what I was asking was like

48:08

okay go back to the 360 days where we saw

48:10

a lot of cover shooters having similar

48:12

formulas. I'm just wondering what the next

48:14

step would be like I'm kind of

48:16

imagine what the next because at

48:19

some point they became like dodge and attack

48:21

type games and I wonder what the next

48:23

thing would be like I would

48:26

want more seafood stuff you know like seafood

48:28

formula I want to see that more but

48:30

but you were able to compare it by

48:32

a game that is out so

48:34

it's happened yeah of course it's happening seafood

48:36

is out other people can copy seafood so

48:38

that will always happen I have no problem

48:41

with that there there will be no change

48:43

also technically the big change was like we

48:45

talked about where an engine was able to

48:47

let you get out of the car right

48:50

like that was a big deal it's like oh my god

48:52

I can get out of the car driver and not yeah

48:54

and not just drive those changes were

48:57

allowed via the tech so we'll see some

49:00

of that tech change but when you look

49:02

at like my big not complaint but

49:04

my my thing is that assassin

49:06

screed brought in hit wide win that's

49:09

sort of assassin screeds yeah

49:11

and then bad man yeah and then bad

49:13

man and lord of the rings and mad

49:15

max all the games but here's the thing

49:17

I don't in any way share perform want

49:19

mad max's combat to change just because it's

49:22

been a while and we've been seeing it

49:24

a bit I feel that the world was

49:26

the change and the other stuff

49:28

was the change but once we

49:30

got the 3d viewpoint once we got games that

49:32

could go third person first person third person first

49:34

person at any point when you look

49:36

at even how film is made there's only a couple ways

49:38

you can film a

49:40

scene like it's really

49:43

the mastery of the basic

49:45

ability yeah so I think it's the execution of

49:48

it you know yeah and you get I

49:50

could film a first person show

49:53

and it would suck bars but you'd get

49:56

somebody who knew what they were doing with

49:58

a camera like Cloverfield My

50:00

Cloverfield would just be puking everywhere. Yeah,

50:02

you know, it just wouldn't I wouldn't know how

50:04

to do things But the basic it's

50:07

like when you get a martial artist a

50:09

lot of the best knockouts aren't fancy You will

50:11

still see you you'll still get the occasion one

50:13

But you'll get the guy who does a hook

50:15

the hook was created When the first caveman grabbed

50:17

a rock and hooked somebody in the face with

50:19

it like it's not changed. It's not

50:21

Okay Chess

50:25

yeah, no, I'm just yeah things that

50:27

just don't ever change. Yeah, I'm just

50:29

wondering like what the next thing will

50:31

be Yeah, I think the

50:33

next thing will be time Dilation

50:36

changes like we're seeing with the Xbox game where

50:38

they're gonna allow you to change the world Adjustment

50:41

in real time of worlds is something that

50:43

no we didn't have the memory in Consoles

50:46

in particular where you could fast switch memory without

50:49

a loading and then people are like that doesn't

50:51

feel great So it's like we're gonna load

50:53

out and then load back into a new world No You

50:56

know We're seeing stuff like Lego and by the

50:58

way I mentioned Lego for a reason when you

51:00

start looking at Minecraft Lego where you're adjusting the

51:02

world and taking and then building You're not just

51:05

yeah the old days. It wasn't taking a building.

51:07

There was no physics capability It was like yeah,

51:09

you would destroy and then it would pop up

51:12

now we have I love that Yeah,

51:14

I love that this generation's coolest things

51:16

and people me amount about a lot

51:19

But it's literally the utilization of SSDs

51:21

by the consoles even like

51:23

without a way you're starting all those switches

51:25

Yeah, and it's fucking awesome dude. Yeah,

51:27

you know use hard drives Yeah,

51:30

yeah, so I yeah, I don't I mean we're

51:32

starting to see space games where they're starting to

51:34

get hammered for let's say lack of Fluidity

51:38

they've got no floating screen, but

51:40

then you also got ever space which doesn't let you

51:42

get out so it's like there's a there's a fast

51:47

The bigger the audience gets the more some of us

51:49

who've played for a long time will start seeing Non

51:52

change, but yep, I think overall

51:54

that's sort of like movies where you might

51:56

get 50 active action movies in a year

51:58

And only a couple Really speak to you, but

52:01

they speak to everybody else. I

52:03

don't know if there'll be any huge changes I

52:05

would like to see dragons not my stuff like

52:07

your character short They will climb up this mountain

52:09

your character's fat. He can't get through this home

52:12

That stuff was a hero in time to video like that

52:14

too as well Some weapons and Dark

52:16

Souls, you know, you're you're not strong enough

52:18

So you can't swing it as hard that

52:20

kind of stuff that to me is way

52:22

way more interesting than Somebody arbitrarily

52:24

changing it just to change it. I'm not saying that

52:26

you were asking for I'm saying no as a whole

52:29

um, do you Do

52:34

you have to go into so let's say

52:36

Assassin's Creed So

52:38

when Assassin's Creed came out Mirage, you

52:40

have to prime the pump and remind yourself It's

52:42

gonna be hitting why to win or

52:45

are you able to? I

52:48

have no problem with saving this at all I

52:50

I don't know like I play a game is

52:52

good a game is good if execution is good

52:54

if it feels good God of War I wouldn't

52:56

say God of War innovated on anything, but it

52:58

did what it did so well I did the

53:00

combat so well, it felt really really good They

53:02

did very smart decisions made very smart decisions with

53:04

its stats and gearing systems and how they affect

53:06

your combat and What you get

53:08

when you level up they made the necessary

53:10

changes to to make the

53:13

game good, you know They didn't have to change everything

53:15

in a weird way. The innovation is taking the art

53:17

of the already done Invention

53:19

and just making it work. Well, so it's

53:21

like yes God or iterative. Yeah, God of

53:23

War is like Oh, we know there's these

53:25

things that sort of have worked in the

53:27

past like a cutscene battle But let's put

53:29

a cutscene battle in the game to

53:31

make it feel seamless And that

53:33

is technically the innovation of I

53:36

mean, it sounds weird, but innovation doesn't always mean

53:38

like innovation Doesn't mean something new from yeah, it

53:40

does always you know, I mean it could be

53:42

iterative for sure It could you could innovate

53:44

in like small ways and I

53:46

think that's the juice like one of the best

53:49

That's why I hate patents so much. We're gonna talk about

53:51

patents later. Yeah, we'll talk about hey about patent so much

53:53

is stuff like gaming

53:55

stuff like music It's

53:58

all inspiration And

54:00

you know, you take inspirations maybe more than what,

54:03

you know, some more than others, some less than others

54:06

and you make it into your own thing. And

54:08

you can have a game that's a mishmash of

54:10

like a lot of different games. Like,

54:12

let's say, what the fuck was that one Crimson

54:14

Desert, right? You could have like, you could take

54:17

something from here, something from here, something from there.

54:19

And you can look at each single one and

54:21

be like, Oh, well, that's already been done. That's

54:23

already been, but it hasn't already been done altogether

54:26

all at once. That's the big thing, right? Yeah.

54:29

That type of collaborative, inspirational

54:31

kind of devs looking at

54:33

games, gamer devs playing something,

54:36

liking something and deciding to

54:38

add it into their game. And a Nemesis system

54:40

would have been fucking great for that. If it

54:43

wasn't patented, that

54:45

would have been amazing to have like that system be, you

54:47

know, for devs to look at it and be like, Oh,

54:49

we want to put it into like a football game or

54:51

a racing game. Or we want to put it into like

54:53

a superhero game. You know, stuff

54:55

like that is just very, very exciting. And yeah,

54:58

that's why we just like patents. Yeah.

55:02

I mean, I'm playing the finals with the

55:04

guys in the chat and there's

55:06

really no innovation in the finals at all. In

55:08

fact, they're terrible at their upgrade. It's the worst

55:11

upgrade path of any game. I think I've played

55:13

in years. It's just, it's ludicrous. It doesn't make,

55:15

it doesn't matter. It doesn't make sense. You get

55:17

a couple items, but it's like, who cares? The

55:19

main thing is destructible landscapes.

55:23

And that alone has changed the way that

55:25

feels. It's just finals feels completely different in

55:27

that one particular place. But if you were

55:29

to look at it as a shooter, you're

55:31

like, everything is the same. I

55:33

mean, it's, it's just a e-sports style shooter

55:36

where they got one thing right, which was like nemesis where

55:38

they got one thing, right. Cause I'm going to be

55:40

honest, man, Lord of the rings, the two games, I didn't

55:42

think I had the best story at

55:45

all. I, the major thing was watching somebody

55:47

come crawling back after you've checked their head

55:49

off and being like, dude,

55:51

what, what's going on and seeing what new skill

55:53

they've got or what new, what new ability that

55:55

they have. But the rest of it was hit

55:57

wide away. I mean, that was by the way.

55:59

One of the worst hit why to win games

56:02

I think I've ever played when it comes to

56:04

the overall combat. Yeah, it's not really, it doesn't feel

56:06

that good. Yeah. So yeah, I think

56:08

innovation is awesome, but I just don't think we're

56:10

going to be seeing any

56:12

kind of, like,

56:15

I don't think we're going to be seeing any kind

56:17

of innovation that hits and makes everybody go, oh my

56:19

God, it'll just be improvements on stuff. I do think

56:21

real world transformation is huge. Finals,

56:24

Fortnite probably is one

56:26

of the big leaders for the building mode. Because

56:28

remember that came out as single mode and then they

56:31

did the building mode and people were like, what the hell? I

56:33

can put a wall right here? Very intelligent. Oh,

56:35

dude. Yeah, very intelligent. Yeah. Yeah,

56:38

they took, they took, they took VR, which was blowing up with

56:40

PUBG and we're like, okay, there's VR,

56:42

but you could build in it. And just from that

56:44

alone, it just blew up. Yeah. It's

56:47

insane the skill ceiling for that type of thing, you know? Yeah,

56:49

because it looks like a small change

56:52

in the finals, but I've seen people blowing the

56:54

ceilings out to drop on the enemy or blowing

56:56

the floor out to make the enemy drop under

56:58

them so they can fire. Well, yeah. I do.

57:01

That is the most important thing. Shoot the wall. Wall

57:03

came down, they landed on the mine and died and

57:05

I'm like, dude, that's, that is amazing. I

57:08

think the best, best, best use case

57:10

of like anything really, any tool is

57:12

to be able to use

57:14

it freely and like, it's like

57:16

a sim, right? Yeah. It's

57:19

just like, you go girl. Where you can tell new stories every

57:21

time. Yep. Right? And

57:23

then you can tell people, you know, if you,

57:25

if you blow up the whole, the wall, this

57:27

angle and stuff, something new will happen that no

57:29

one's ever saw before. Yeah. Which is very exciting.

57:31

Yeah. Yeah. It

57:33

was definitely, I mean, so far what I've seen, I don't feel it will hold

57:36

me very long, but one of the things I was talking to

57:38

the guys about is if it holds me for an hour and

57:40

it's free, that's not, that's

57:42

not a bad thing. It held me for an hour and

57:44

it's free. If it holds other people for longer and it's

57:47

free, that's pretty fucking wicked. I mean,

57:49

that's like wicked that that game's free and

57:51

the upgrades, I do want them to matter more,

57:53

but right now they don't. So I find myself

57:55

engaging with the game and not ever going, what

57:58

new shirt am I going to wear? Dude,

58:00

it's first man who gives a shit, you know,

58:02

I'm not gonna see my shirt that

58:04

there are a couple Clothing options

58:06

in there that are hilarious and it is

58:08

fun to dress your character up with but

58:10

it's more just it's more of a Game

58:12

than it is seems like a very tight

58:15

like eSports ready. Yeah, like a very tight

58:17

competitive game. Yeah, dude. I was watching It

58:21

was flip cup want to be dev and two other people

58:23

and they were all playing You know most were in one

58:25

game if there was two or three another and they

58:27

grabbed the you know You use psychic power and you

58:29

grab the explosive and we see it a lot in

58:31

other places But what I was noticing is the guys

58:34

in the discord were learning off each other So

58:36

they were like playing in a group and like flip

58:38

cup would do it and then wannabe would try it

58:41

and they'd be talking And you saw this organic growth

58:43

pattern where it was like, oh that works Until

58:46

finally wannabe had one of the explosive things He was

58:48

like leaping up in the air and he was just

58:50

looking to see if somebody was generally there and you

58:52

know It'd miss and not do damage 80%

58:55

of the time, but you'd have that one time where it'd be

58:57

like And somebody was right

58:59

there did you And it would kill him while

59:01

he was in the air and you were like

59:04

dude that this I mean that was that organic

59:06

sweetness Where you feel flexible works like I have

59:08

some life tools Yeah,

59:10

some of the most exciting times in like a

59:12

pvp game like that is this is right before

59:14

or at launch You know in the beginning when

59:16

people are discovering things, there's no metas People

59:19

are trying out new things and learning off each other

59:21

It's very exciting especially because we're not going to escape

59:23

the internet and we're going to keep having metas and

59:25

you know People are going to do this So

59:28

that beginning, you know honeymoon phase is just such

59:30

a fun time to be a part of something

59:32

new Yeah, it's been it's been

59:34

awesome to watch because I guess you can say

59:36

in a way It was an

59:39

innovation to put it in a in a free to play esport

59:42

shooter Yeah, you can say

59:44

anything. Uh, yeah, but i'm just glad that the

59:46

bad company You know formula

59:48

is back continued. We've been asking for

59:50

it for a while Uh

59:52

speaking of asking for stuff. I asked everybody should

59:54

we discuss the sony leaks in detail people said

59:56

yes, uh, 70 said yes 20

1:00:00

I've 7525 is pretty close what it has said.

1:00:02

No, we've chosen to discuss it

1:00:04

somewhat on the side That was that's on

1:00:06

me. So even though I did that poll

1:00:09

Hey, I might not have done

1:00:11

exactly what you wanted But that's sort of that's just

1:00:13

looking at what was leaked and what we've talked about

1:00:15

in the past because a lot of times We've

1:00:18

we've talked about the data as always change and we

1:00:20

did it with the FTC stuff with Microsoft So yeah,

1:00:22

a lot of this stuff will change but oh before

1:00:24

we get to the next topic I'll

1:00:27

just say something real quick. The I did

1:00:29

mention a little bit Yeah, the ready or

1:00:31

not 1.0 is out I played

1:00:33

early access back in the when it first came out

1:00:36

and it was very bare bones no progression or anything

1:00:39

But the one thing I'm really having fun with here

1:00:41

and there not not co-op with other

1:00:43

people But doing this like single-player campaign

1:00:45

mode called I think commander mode Which

1:00:47

is really neat because you it's

1:00:49

kind of like darkest dungeon in a way where

1:00:51

you have a team They there is permadeath. So

1:00:54

if you have like a teammate that dies, they're

1:00:56

dead forever And if

1:00:58

you fuck up sometimes or you know go on

1:01:00

a lot of missions Some people can get stressed

1:01:02

you can send them to therapy you can fire

1:01:04

you can hire people They have

1:01:06

different classes and stuff. So that's been

1:01:08

really really cool I like that the the

1:01:10

game is an actual game now because when it first

1:01:13

was an early access There was no reason to win

1:01:15

or lose or anything. There was no progression, but the

1:01:17

gunplay was really really fun So

1:01:19

I thought that was a neat neat change feels

1:01:21

like Yeah, I

1:01:23

mean it's it's great and everything.

1:01:25

I just I can't give any Gumption

1:01:28

to play any of these early access games that go to one

1:01:31

No, not even 1.0. No, you know for

1:01:33

release early access in my vein man. It's

1:01:35

my baby. Yeah, it just it just Puts

1:01:39

it mean it's not even puts me off.

1:01:41

It's that it. Yeah Well, it does put me

1:01:43

off But it it leaves this

1:01:45

black hole of care where it's apt

1:01:47

true apathy where like somebody will

1:01:49

say oh It's free or whatever and we're at 1.0 on

1:01:51

an early access game It's free for the weekend and i'll

1:01:54

be like I can't even be asked to I

1:01:56

don't know why I don't

1:01:58

know why but I feel like I can feel when a

1:02:00

game was ever in early access now.

1:02:02

It's like a free to play game.

1:02:04

Yeah. So I'll come back

1:02:06

and I'll be like, oh, I'm going to check it out. Oh,

1:02:09

this feels early. And then I'll look it up

1:02:11

and I'll be like, oh, it was early access.

1:02:13

If there's something about those games that feel a

1:02:15

certain way. I kind of feel

1:02:17

that way about Groomwood just because it pissed me

1:02:20

off so much because I've been waiting for it

1:02:22

for a long time and released an early access

1:02:25

where when it finally comes out and be like, oh, well, like

1:02:27

other people have played it. It's been an early access and all

1:02:29

this shit. It pissed me off and I'm going to remember the

1:02:31

time it pissed me off and I'm going to feel like shit.

1:02:33

And I know I won't want to play it. Yeah.

1:02:37

Yeah. I like it. Certainly, you know, glad that

1:02:39

they do well. It just sort

1:02:42

of feels like it's not for me when I see early

1:02:44

access. Right. But

1:02:46

go play is fun, dude. And

1:02:48

the commanding your squad and shit is fun as hell,

1:02:50

dude. It's reminding me of like freedom fighters and stuff

1:02:52

or the old squad games started out pretty fun. Right.

1:02:54

I mean, even in it's been

1:02:56

it's early. I heard a lot of people say, no, I had

1:02:58

issues with this and this, but they liked the the idea of

1:03:01

it. So

1:03:03

yeah, the way better now, like you feel

1:03:05

like your book, your book companions feel like

1:03:07

actual people, like they feel like you got

1:03:10

like a SWAT team with you. It's really

1:03:12

well done. Good bot. A.I. I get

1:03:14

it. Somebody is going to say, you know,

1:03:16

they're only true. Where do you play with people? Blah, blah,

1:03:18

blah, whatever. I don't give a shit. I

1:03:20

think that all these games that come out should have bots. Like

1:03:23

that's the way it should be because some people aren't going to

1:03:25

have three friends who don't want to go through them. What

1:03:28

I've been excited about is like the bots for

1:03:30

World War Z were insane. They

1:03:33

were so good, man. You'd be down. They

1:03:35

would come heal you. They would leap over stuff

1:03:37

and then I played back for blood and there's

1:03:39

were just fuckers would be saying. Payday, Oh,

1:03:42

payday bot. Payday, trash. And

1:03:44

so when you get a game with good

1:03:46

bots, even if it's just healing you, we're

1:03:48

doing the one or two things you need. Because

1:03:50

let's be honest, a lot of players, including myself,

1:03:52

when I started a game are trash anyway. So

1:03:54

if you have a bot that's at minimum, like

1:03:57

one level above trash, it's probably better than 80. my

1:06:01

gun and just start shooting man. So here's

1:06:03

the big problem with light guns projectors. The

1:06:06

problem with light guns is that they have to have the

1:06:08

screen in front of them. So you've got an entire group

1:06:10

of people who won't be able to play it right

1:06:13

then because they won't have unless

1:06:15

something's changed. I don't think they

1:06:17

work very well on projectors. So that would be one thing

1:06:19

that you would have to worry about. I

1:06:22

would like to see it with a light gun. I just I

1:06:24

wouldn't want the light gun to be expensive. I don't want

1:06:26

to add more money to some purchase. Yeah not that expensive

1:06:28

like like $50 $50. Jiro

1:06:30

aiming on the PS5 works

1:06:33

right. You could have like those things where you

1:06:35

put the controller in the middle right. Yeah.

1:06:37

Yeah I mean or you can just hold the

1:06:40

fucking PS5 by one hand and play for the

1:06:42

one hour the battery lasts right. It's adaptive shit.

1:06:44

Yeah you got your one hour battery. It's

1:06:46

still longer than the call campaign though.

1:06:49

Yeah oh god damn yeah this podcast

1:06:51

will be longer than two call of

1:06:53

duty campaigns. All of our podcasts are

1:06:55

longer than call of duty

1:06:58

3 is more. Someone can finish

1:07:00

the campaign while listening to us. All

1:07:02

the way through. Yeah Sega leak was pretty well

1:07:04

it wasn't a leak I should say. Sega

1:07:07

wasn't a leak. That was

1:07:09

them getting those patents open and

1:07:11

altered beast kid chameleon. What

1:07:15

were some of the other ones? House

1:07:17

of the Dead then the

1:07:19

ones we knew about. It might have been a

1:07:21

fantasy star maybe. Maybe fantasy star wasn't on there

1:07:24

but Sega's got some big stuff. I

1:07:27

don't think it'll be big games. I think it'll all

1:07:29

be the mini remakes and I'm fine with that. Actually

1:07:32

think it'll work. With how

1:07:34

much they changed like Streets of Rage

1:07:36

and with the other one. Golden

1:07:40

Axe. Warrior X. Golden Axe. That

1:07:42

one looked rough. That one looked rough right but Streets of

1:07:45

Rage looked pretty cool from the little snippet. Crazy

1:07:47

Taxi looked fucking awesome. Golden

1:07:49

Axe looked like a game they didn't want to leak the

1:07:51

footage right. That looked like

1:07:53

somebody leaked the footage and then randomly stuck it in that

1:07:56

trailer. Because all the other games. Looks kind of like a

1:07:58

gauntlet game though. The

1:10:01

seafood does I think John Wick is a

1:10:03

game that would totally benefit from that type of

1:10:05

combat like a gun fool combat because yeah

1:10:08

It wouldn't be fun Like it was just like

1:10:10

a third-person shooter like you want to do these

1:10:12

Acrobatic things and you don't want it to just

1:10:15

be an animation you'd want to be a controller

1:10:17

with it like control So it would

1:10:19

be cool if the seafood people made like a seafood game,

1:10:21

but with guns. I think that'd be really fucking cool Yeah,

1:10:24

I think it's just me speaking I

1:10:27

like John Wick as a movie that get

1:10:29

a John Wick game would not interest me

1:10:31

as much as some other IP That's

1:10:33

a player and if it turned out awesome, they'd

1:10:35

be great But for whatever reason that character is

1:10:37

an ability to die I like the movie where

1:10:39

you it's like he's just trucking

1:10:41

forward and I don't know how the game If

1:10:44

the if John Wick was dying a

1:10:46

bunch in the game I think I would start to

1:10:48

lose the effect of what John Wick is John Wick's

1:10:51

Unstoppable force regardless of anything dude. He got shot

1:10:53

and fell off a building Like

1:10:56

you fall off a bill Maybe it could be like

1:10:58

one of those like hotline Miami things where if

1:11:00

you if someone's gonna hit you you gotta repeat You

1:11:02

know I mean go again You

1:11:05

can't get any but you have no

1:11:07

house. Yeah one shot one

1:11:09

shot. You gotta yeah Deacon

1:11:11

says fire for wrestling might be my favorite wrestling game

1:11:13

should be Lombardo says have you

1:11:15

ever noticed that when you're watching a YouTube video or

1:11:18

in any uploaded video gameplay it appears smoother than actually

1:11:20

playing Yeah,

1:11:23

I mean a lot of times it is smoother depending

1:11:25

on what your system is I've

1:11:27

definitely seen Janky FPS though and

1:11:29

some trailers so yeah,

1:11:31

I could go both ways for sure

1:11:34

I mean if somebody uploads let's say they make

1:11:36

it in premiere You have

1:11:38

frame sampling frame blending and optics

1:11:40

optic flow for smoothing frame rate

1:11:42

out. Yeah, they may be choosing

1:11:45

It would probably be blending. Yeah blending is

1:11:47

the one that makes it a little bit

1:11:49

smoother They might be choosing blending or something

1:11:52

when they upload the trailer I'm not too

1:11:54

worried about that because whatever jutters you are

1:11:56

seen that are that are overcome by

1:11:58

blending you're gonna notice We

1:12:01

or you're not gonna notice too much if there were

1:12:03

huge frame rate dumps in a trailer That's what you

1:12:05

I mean you would notice those in the game, but

1:12:07

I think little snippets I've seen a lot of games

1:12:10

where they pan in a trailer and they're still You

1:12:14

know you still get that judder in the trailer,

1:12:16

and I'm just there was trade in in the

1:12:18

no man's sky They did

1:12:20

did a couple and there was a little bits of like Little

1:12:23

jitter you don't notice it yeah Look

1:12:26

at okay. I think we got all those super chats Moving

1:12:29

on from there. Where were we in fact we were

1:12:31

what we talked about I

1:12:33

don't talk about the twitch shit last time there was

1:12:35

like a bunch of issues there Yeah, what was going

1:12:37

on with twitch? Oh my god. I know what you're

1:12:40

talking about yeah, go go for it. Oh, yeah Yeah,

1:12:43

yeah, you have your headphones in it. Yep. Yep So

1:12:46

there's a lot of shit with the switch thing First

1:12:50

of all I think I think I think what they did

1:12:52

is stupid I think twitch always always always

1:12:55

this stupid shit with their DMS Constantly constantly

1:12:57

constantly, but I don't have the same opinion

1:12:59

as others. He's like I have it's more

1:13:01

of a nuanced discussion really but So

1:13:05

first of all the new update on

1:13:08

the consumer side I feel like on

1:13:10

paper It should be better for consumers because now

1:13:12

you can just click on a filter and turn

1:13:14

off all of that shit You know I mean

1:13:16

you don't see any cool more content So it

1:13:18

should be should be fired for the consumer if

1:13:21

it's working as intended however So

1:13:23

there's I think there's like two main main

1:13:26

Bodies of twitch that are kind of head-to-head

1:13:28

with this type of thing. There's one

1:13:31

Mindset where it's like okay We gotta let you know

1:13:33

we're kind of hindering female creators from doing what they

1:13:35

want We gotta let them to do more of what

1:13:37

they want blah blah blah and we got the ones

1:13:39

that are like we want to Be advertiser friendly we

1:13:41

want to make money with advertisers How are we gonna

1:13:43

make money with advertisers if we can have this shit

1:13:46

on our site? There's that and

1:13:48

then I think the biggest issue. Okay, if you

1:13:50

want to go the female route I think the

1:13:52

biggest issue here is for creators. I

1:13:54

think to be a female creator

1:13:56

Let's say you just want to you want to just

1:13:59

do games even though most popular ones like

1:14:01

Pokemon all that all that shit there's like

1:14:03

an expectation now there's like an expectation yeah

1:14:05

for these for these streamers to have an

1:14:07

OnlyFans and and Coomer content out there on

1:14:09

the internet and that is I think like

1:14:12

one of the most damaging things I

1:14:14

don't care about like children arguments and stuff I feel like

1:14:17

with the new changes they should be able to do like

1:14:19

parental control and all that shit I

1:14:21

think Twitch should be a

1:14:23

like like the ideally none

1:14:25

of that I feel like you should

1:14:28

think to yourself like oh if it was

1:14:30

like an unlike something that is

1:14:32

okay for an underage person to do in

1:14:35

general like you think oh if

1:14:37

an underage person were to

1:14:39

do that would that be okay and then

1:14:41

think for yourself like okay then it's not

1:14:43

okay it should be off twitch you know

1:14:46

so you can't like go there and do

1:14:48

like the body paint weird fucking extra cleavage

1:14:50

ass water fucking drawing

1:14:52

but there's also another thing where

1:14:55

not only twitch but I feel like if twitch

1:14:58

like let's say twitch increases

1:15:00

the TOS thing like I'd say okay you

1:15:02

can now do something for like 5% more

1:15:04

right let's say they

1:15:06

they kind of bend

1:15:09

the rule a little bit I feel like a

1:15:11

lot of twitch creators just just

1:15:13

they're like buck testers you know I

1:15:15

mean they push it yeah max the

1:15:17

limit they're like oh we could do

1:15:19

like some some artistic community we're gonna

1:15:21

draw horse cocks you know what I

1:15:23

mean so so there's that happening too

1:15:25

and so a lot of them

1:15:27

got banned because some I guess

1:15:29

a part of twitch wasn't super fully updated

1:15:32

with the new TOS systems and they went

1:15:34

and they had to unban and stuff I

1:15:36

think it's like just pure chaos happening right

1:15:38

now and people just pushing limits but

1:15:41

yeah I think overall like twitch

1:15:43

is gonna keep doing that I don't think consumers

1:15:45

you know consumers I

1:15:47

don't think they're gonna be affected that much

1:15:50

I think mostly the creators and just Amazon

1:15:52

I don't know what the fuck is gonna

1:15:54

happen with advertisers and all that stuff you

1:15:56

know yeah so that's

1:15:58

that's where I stand on it I just don't

1:16:00

know I I guess I'm

1:16:03

I just I guess I don't understand twitch so

1:16:05

much, but I don't understand if there was this

1:16:07

bubbling Incredibly huge audience

1:16:10

that wanted to see it slightly

1:16:12

more tit Like

1:16:14

that's what always surprises me with these changes. I

1:16:16

don't see that twitch has to change anything They've

1:16:18

got the rules down those rules seem to be

1:16:20

working There's always gonna be people bitching that say

1:16:22

I can't masturbate on camera Yeah, you can go

1:16:24

to yeah, I bait or go to cam oars

1:16:27

or whatever. Yeah websites are called By

1:16:29

the way, I know that's a website. That's what I meant. I don't mean

1:16:31

those people are It's like there's

1:16:33

names you can go find those a twitch has

1:16:36

a particular rule set So does YouTube and they

1:16:38

they always suck but twitch just has that tendency

1:16:40

to switch and switch And

1:16:42

I don't yeah like that's the weird thing

1:16:44

is you know You should look at something and

1:16:46

like you said twitch streamers are

1:16:49

testers. So are youtubers less so cuz

1:16:51

a little slower but Twitch

1:16:54

streamers. Yeah the moment something opens up some changes

1:16:56

I mean we thought instantly by the way that

1:16:58

change happened and you saw people saying I'm gonna

1:17:00

go test I mean I saw it on For

1:17:03

people like I'm gonna test you had guys

1:17:06

dressed, you know, like in body paint, you

1:17:08

know Pretending to have all kinds of crazy

1:17:10

stuff. So you already know that the undercurrent

1:17:12

is there I don't exactly know what twitch

1:17:15

thinks they're losing by keeping

1:17:17

the rules. They must have a worry about

1:17:19

cash because yeah,

1:17:21

otherwise There would be

1:17:23

no if you won't make an adult

1:17:25

twitch and separate it completely and

1:17:27

just be like dude This is this is like

1:17:30

alt twitch. You can pull it alt twitch and

1:17:32

be like this is your really stuff It's a

1:17:34

different sign in it's different users. It's what have

1:17:36

you and we are not switching Whatever

1:17:39

we've had going because whatever they've been have going

1:17:41

we obviously see tons of people have success You

1:17:43

want to get more risque their

1:17:45

websites for that and only fans

1:17:47

is a actual legit Regardless

1:17:49

of what people think of it's a legit place if

1:17:52

you want to Push the limits

1:17:54

and I don't know if anybody's dreaming games yet on there

1:17:57

naked, but I'm assuming the Why

1:18:00

not? I think

1:18:02

the big thing is also Amazon. I just want

1:18:05

to say Amazon Prime is a huge problem with

1:18:07

all this. So you can subscribe using Amazon Prime

1:18:09

and I think if you

1:18:11

can stay, I don't think there's a requirement

1:18:13

that you can't use Amazon Prime on adult

1:18:15

channels. If there

1:18:17

isn't, that might be their big problem.

1:18:19

Is they're worried that Amazon, which is

1:18:21

more family friendly, there

1:18:23

might be a worry that people are using

1:18:26

mom and dad's Amazon Prime to subscribe to

1:18:28

this particular thing. So they keep adjusting it.

1:18:30

But why do they keep adjusting it up?

1:18:33

Which is so weird. I don't know man. My

1:18:35

theory is before all this happened,

1:18:37

there was this new meta. These

1:18:40

Koomer girls always have new methods. Once

1:18:43

it was like they were wearing a

1:18:46

horse mask and literally giving

1:18:48

blowjobs to their mice

1:18:51

and calling it ASMR. There

1:18:54

was a farting meta where they were literally farting into

1:18:56

the mics. There was a feet thing, a bathtub

1:18:58

thing. And the newest one was

1:19:01

they would stream themselves up

1:19:03

to here but they'd be completely naked. I

1:19:06

think that shit gets them a lot of bits

1:19:08

and stuff and Twitch gets the

1:19:10

new from bits and subscribers and

1:19:12

all that stuff. And

1:19:15

then people complain like, oh if I got banned for

1:19:17

this, why did she not get banned for that? And

1:19:20

you keep hearing a lot of that. So I think

1:19:22

they adjusted to be like, oh, well these are the

1:19:24

new rules. So we put new lines so

1:19:26

that we could keep having

1:19:29

that content without people asking why

1:19:33

the lines are so blurry. But I think they

1:19:35

answer with the wrong thing every time and it

1:19:37

just makes it worse. And they answer at all.

1:19:40

The honest truth is they're the ones, it's just

1:19:42

like YouTube. I'll bitch about YouTube but YouTube controls

1:19:44

everything. If they choose to say you can't have

1:19:47

a beard, I'd be like, well then I got to figure out

1:19:49

if I'm going to shave or I'm going to show up.

1:19:51

But what's going on with Twitch is the opposite, where

1:19:54

they're just trying to up the ante a

1:19:56

little bit into the weirdest segments. It's like

1:19:58

the little changes you... You made, is it

1:20:01

worth the extra bits? What about those people

1:20:03

who, are they just going to start

1:20:06

streaming at that very moment or were they already

1:20:08

streaming and doing fine, but now that

1:20:10

you allow for this one thing, there's even more. And

1:20:12

I don't know what's going on with Twitch. I don't

1:20:15

know if they want to be edgy. And so they

1:20:17

keep trying to push the edge or they're worried about

1:20:19

losing because Pornhub has a big game section now as

1:20:21

well. I mean, dude, I put up stuff on Pornhub

1:20:23

before to see how a review would do. They

1:20:27

do okay. But it's like obviously

1:20:29

Pornhub is going to try to advance because there

1:20:31

has been all their shit that they got in

1:20:33

trouble for. So let's say another channel comes up

1:20:35

and they're like, okay, we're going to allow risk

1:20:37

of business as long as you're certified amateur, what

1:20:39

have you. Well that's already OnlyFans.

1:20:43

So I mean, I don't know why

1:20:45

Twitch isn't just saying we're the place instead to be

1:20:47

games and to be this and that. And this is

1:20:49

sort of where we're drawing the line, move

1:20:51

forward. But for whatever reason, man,

1:20:53

they just continually edge up, which is just

1:20:56

weird. And then pull it back down. And

1:20:58

you're just like, dude, you're causing issues all

1:21:00

the... And by the way, at some point,

1:21:03

if you get people banned multiple times, you cause

1:21:05

all these moments, somebody's going to just do a class

1:21:08

action lawsuit and be like, I got banned for this.

1:21:10

You know, but you switched it, you know, but

1:21:12

this person didn't... And there's real evidence when you

1:21:14

look, there is evidence of like some odd things going

1:21:16

on. You know, with some people

1:21:18

getting banned, some people not, people selling vagina juices, beer.

1:21:21

It's not only for years. Yeah,

1:21:23

it is quite literally fifth element, but worse.

1:21:26

Like it's so weird to have grown up with that movie

1:21:28

and see an influencer in that movie 25

1:21:31

years ago and be like, nobody will ever

1:21:33

be that bad. And they're way

1:21:35

worse. It's

1:21:38

weird to look at the way...

1:21:40

And by the way, YouTube Shorts is the same way,

1:21:42

man. YouTube Shorts straight up porn

1:21:44

stars. I remember seeing this one girl and I'm like,

1:21:46

all she does is pretend to give a BJ and

1:21:48

then stand up to the camera and say, I'm full.

1:21:50

And I was like, I don't understand the joke because

1:21:52

I thought there had to be a

1:21:54

joke. Then I looked at the name

1:21:56

and was like, okay. And I clicked on the thing and it

1:21:58

was like me and my boyfriend do... stuff over here

1:22:00

and it was an Onlyfans and it was 100% full

1:22:02

x-rated porno. I was

1:22:05

like, they're just pretending

1:22:08

it's about anything. It's quite literally

1:22:10

the beginning of a x-rated

1:22:12

film on a YouTube. And

1:22:14

I was like, did I, I saw

1:22:17

a headline on Twitter where this Twitch

1:22:19

girl, Smort where this Twitch girl, uh,

1:22:21

got banned for eating candy cane. And

1:22:24

it was like the news news thing was like, Oh,

1:22:26

this girl got banned for eating candy cane. What the

1:22:28

hell Twitch? Why would you ban someone for eating

1:22:30

candy cane? And I looked over

1:22:32

her profile, looked over her clips, dude,

1:22:34

she made fucking candy cane that looked

1:22:36

like dick. She was fucking them on

1:22:39

camera. She was like, you

1:22:41

get shell like dog. Come on, man.

1:22:43

Yeah. I just think that people will

1:22:45

push it. You know, um, those

1:22:47

guys don't write rules very well either. I don't

1:22:49

know whoever handles like their, you know,

1:22:52

the subset of what is okay and what's not,

1:22:54

but whoever's writing those needs to be fired because

1:22:56

they suck. They're terrible writing rules. I mean, like

1:22:58

when you just look at them, every

1:23:00

Twitch stream or whatever looks and goes, I'm going to

1:23:02

test that. And the reason why is because there's testable,

1:23:06

whatever they've said, you're like, all right, let's check

1:23:08

this out. I'm Rick Gaffney. $5. You think Sega

1:23:10

super game is a Sega metaverse? Like what Fortnite

1:23:13

is doing? Yes, I do. We talked about this

1:23:15

last week. Um, on the last

1:23:17

two podcasts, actually, I do believe, at

1:23:19

least from what we're looking at, that that will

1:23:21

be what's going on is that Sega's super game.

1:23:25

I would love for it to be a big game,

1:23:27

but I actually slightly believe it'll be, they've had the

1:23:29

Sega marketplace. There was first ones to do a marketplace

1:23:31

in the Sega Genesis days. Um,

1:23:33

I think that their front end, rare replay

1:23:35

was a front end for rare games. I

1:23:38

just feel like you're going to go into an

1:23:40

app or go into Sega store, whatever. And it'll

1:23:42

have like a front end. And then you'll be

1:23:44

able to jump in all these games. Maybe they'll

1:23:46

have overlaps with skins like Fortnite and Lego and

1:23:49

racing do. Yeah, dude. I loved having those one

1:23:51

desks where you put them in and there's like

1:23:53

a bunch of games or Atari games or whatever.

1:23:55

I just feel like that's what they'll do. A

1:23:57

super game would be amazing, but I certainly hope

1:23:59

it's not. and move forward. You know,

1:24:01

like that's the problem is does

1:24:03

Sega have a SuperGame? Yeah, Sega's

1:24:05

big SuperGame would be like... Persona,

1:24:08

right? Fantasy Star. No, I'm talking... So

1:24:10

when they say SuperGame, we have a

1:24:12

bunch of personas. There's nothing super about

1:24:14

it other than it's already persona, it's

1:24:16

already super in many fans. So to

1:24:18

me, SuperGame has to be something that

1:24:20

would be either many IPs layered under

1:24:23

one front end meta or an old

1:24:26

game. And their oldest big game is Fantasy Star

1:24:28

and they have the online but it's pretty shady.

1:24:30

They're online... I mean, I like Fantasy

1:24:32

Star Online but it looks like it's from, you

1:24:34

know, 10 decades ago. Like

1:24:37

it's rough. Yeah, so I can see a Fantasy

1:24:39

Star RPG with tons of money like Final Fantasy.

1:24:42

But I don't know if there's enough Fantasy Star

1:24:44

fans out there. I mean, I'm one. No,

1:24:46

I don't think so. But Genesis was cool. I

1:24:48

think... I don't know if it's Dunia, if it's

1:24:51

like a full game now. Oh, what is it?

1:24:54

The Fantasy Star Online 2 Genesis. Yeah,

1:24:56

it was pretty fun. But

1:24:59

it doesn't look anywhere near current.

1:25:02

We're talking well beyond last

1:25:05

gen. Like it is rough look. I

1:25:07

mean, some of the effects but it's

1:25:09

like super low res. You

1:25:11

know, it's like really janky, almost

1:25:13

free to play Chinese, free to play game

1:25:15

look. And the way... Well, I

1:25:17

guess we talked about this, I don't know

1:25:19

if it was your podcast before that Japanese

1:25:22

free to play looks different than China. Yeah,

1:25:24

it was us. Was that you? Yeah, with

1:25:26

great graphics. So I've seen this look like

1:25:28

a Japanese free to play game where the

1:25:31

gameplay is there and it is there but

1:25:33

the graphics aren't up to snuff. Yeah, really.

1:25:36

Yeah, that was us with Japanese and

1:25:38

Chinese free to play. It's

1:25:40

so interesting. When you

1:25:42

really think about it, you can identify it

1:25:44

pretty clearly too. Yeah, or Korean even. You

1:25:46

can identify a Korean MMO. Next

1:25:49

up is VR back. We'll cover this shortly.

1:25:51

So... Alright,

1:25:53

moving on. No,

1:25:56

it's not back. Dude, it's the

1:25:58

same thing that happened with Half-Life, man. Is

1:26:00

one great game does not make anything they've met

1:26:02

they missed their chance when all the vr was

1:26:04

coming they should have used the vr They

1:26:07

should have used the hardware coming together as a

1:26:09

fake platform like you would with a new playstation

1:26:12

and they didn't And now

1:26:14

that's why every time somebody tries to

1:26:16

get traction You see people saying

1:26:18

it's the new You know genesis

1:26:20

of vr and it's like dude Yeah, and I think

1:26:22

affordability is a big thing. They want a big

1:26:24

market share to start pushing games into it Yeah,

1:26:27

yeah metas made it clear. They don't even have apps for

1:26:29

their shit. I mean it's stated right in that interview He's

1:26:31

like, oh we don't have apps for it. Um You

1:26:35

need Even if somebody started today you

1:26:37

have three years to wait You've got

1:26:39

this one that came out. You've got a couple like

1:26:41

of these games that sort of hit sort

1:26:44

of big But as somebody in

1:26:46

chat yesterday brought up every discussion

1:26:48

this person was in whenever they mentioned

1:26:50

vr people were Suggesting beat saber

1:26:52

and they were like seriously That's where

1:26:55

vr's catalog is is that you're still

1:26:57

suggesting beat saber as one of the

1:26:59

previous game like where are we with

1:27:01

this? And half life alex

1:27:04

is obviously mentioned, but that's you know It's

1:27:07

like the only Dude,

1:27:09

it's actual next-gen big thing, right? Yeah,

1:27:11

and sony sony dived on their playstation

1:27:13

vr owners I'm sorry. Is anything coming

1:27:16

out on that? Not only nothing coming

1:27:18

out, dude No backwards compatibility

1:27:20

and they're like, well technically because it's

1:27:22

like technically bullshit I don't give a

1:27:24

fuck what you have to deal with

1:27:26

technically you're the company That's

1:27:28

nothing to do with me as a consumer

1:27:31

when I buy it I need to have

1:27:33

a return and the lack of backwards compatibility

1:27:35

on their own console vr

1:27:37

was ruthless and We

1:27:40

see it playing out in that some people bought it,

1:27:42

but it's not play your dad still hasn't been turned

1:27:45

on You know hello, dude. It's literally

1:27:47

right. It's like He didn't

1:27:49

even he was like yo, where's my thing?

1:27:52

A couple days ago. I was looking for all my

1:27:54

vr helmets to discuss Somebody's asking me like how many

1:27:57

I had and I was I can't find a playstation

1:27:59

2 vr Looking,

1:30:02

having any kind of selling point being not

1:30:04

looking at the game is an indication there's

1:30:06

a problem. That's the indication

1:30:08

there's a problem. Is that

1:30:10

a selling point might be looking at the streamer

1:30:13

the entire time they're doing it. You're just like,

1:30:15

well, that should indicate right there that we have

1:30:17

a huge gap in the delivery of these games.

1:30:19

What should happen is people are saying, what,

1:30:21

and it's why we get shit during

1:30:23

the podcast streams for Xbox

1:30:25

or something. People will be like, there

1:30:27

can absies faces are too small. I'm like, bitch, you

1:30:30

don't want to see my face. It's a, you

1:30:32

know, what they should do trailers. They

1:30:36

should make it so that everyone with a VR

1:30:38

headset watching the stream can be in the game

1:30:40

watching them. Yeah, something like that. Move around in

1:30:42

the game world or something. Yeah, it's

1:30:45

just lacking man. Slacking everywhere. That was kind

1:30:47

of talkery, right? What if you're like stuck

1:30:49

with the game world? But anyways, yeah, that.

1:30:52

Yeah, that's I mean, that's a meta of a meta that they have

1:30:54

been met the first part of the meta. Let's

1:30:57

worry about that. Talking meta of girls. We'll

1:30:59

burn that bridge when we get to it.

1:31:01

Doki Doki Literature Club. I mean,

1:31:03

if you're just, you know, if

1:31:05

we're so interested in VR, if these companies

1:31:07

are so interested in VR, they

1:31:10

need to figure out a way to make sure that the cost

1:31:13

is equivalent to what you're getting.

1:31:15

PlayStation VR is just hugely, hugely

1:31:17

painful in that one particular area.

1:31:20

Why are companies interested in VR? Because

1:31:23

everybody believes it's another level of

1:31:25

a platform. It's just there is

1:31:28

no platform. VR is

1:31:30

not a platform. But are their margins good? Like do they

1:31:32

make a lot of money? No. Like

1:31:35

what? Because there's no market share. There's not they're

1:31:37

not going to make money with like VR stuff.

1:31:39

Like what? Yeah, no, it's actually pretty rough. A

1:31:41

lot of the VR devs, smaller

1:31:43

devs, some are sticking around, but you go to

1:31:45

like a lot of the gathering points for VR

1:31:47

devs and a lot of them have left. They've

1:31:49

left as of two years ago, even. So,

1:31:52

yeah, it's pretty rough. VR needs something

1:31:55

to catch on. And the honest truth

1:31:57

is every other time for

1:31:59

storage media. It's been adult entertainment. I Mean,

1:32:02

yeah, it sucks dude. I tried like a

1:32:05

sex game in VR once and it was

1:32:07

so bad, dude Well, it's not

1:32:09

even a sex. I mean that too. Well, yeah,

1:32:11

that too, but it's like Yeah,

1:32:14

or even You need

1:32:16

like the the Japanese like machine

1:32:18

jerkers. I Don't

1:32:20

even think it's that dude It's you

1:32:23

the cameras for real stuff isn't

1:32:25

even done right storage, right? Remember

1:32:27

it's 4k 90 FPS

1:32:29

meaning the file is huge if

1:32:31

you want like let's say definition

1:32:34

So one of the things I love

1:32:36

with VR was going to sporting events one of the

1:32:38

best things for me is the sporting event VR channels

1:32:41

and there's just very few and Some

1:32:43

of the storefronts have them and I watched a drag race

1:32:46

From like behind the two drag race cars,

1:32:48

you know spinning out that was like this

1:32:50

is the greatest I mean dude I was

1:32:52

there and the box told you about the

1:32:54

basketball game where I thought the chick was

1:32:56

like hitting on me and Realized I'm staring

1:32:58

at the VR camera my boy lied to

1:33:00

me. It was like right. Whoa, man What's

1:33:02

hey, how you doing? And I was I

1:33:05

was there and those were shit They

1:33:07

weren't even the greatest but nobody's taking the

1:33:09

time somebody you almost need an embrace earth.

1:33:11

That's doing well or Somebody's

1:33:14

just hit a couple dozen events man.

1:33:16

They had some boxing events. They had

1:33:18

some WWE Events, or I think

1:33:20

it was one of the smaller wrestling ones, you know

1:33:23

what the best is right

1:33:25

now Like arenas

1:33:27

and arcades and show like actual arenas

1:33:29

or something VR in

1:33:31

us the sim games. I mean sim

1:33:33

VR Simulator

1:33:37

let's see thief simulator the

1:33:39

VR Yeah,

1:33:41

those guys need to hit it

1:33:43

more a mechanic simulator VR all

1:33:46

of those mechanics all of those mechanic Real

1:33:49

life power watch the R's they work. Yeah,

1:33:51

you're a truck of marriage those things are

1:33:55

They're sort of leading it but they're not leading

1:33:57

it because it's always after it's like here's the

1:33:59

main one We need a

1:34:01

couple of these companies to be able to do it. They want it too

1:34:03

hard right now. Rep

1:34:05

says, let's go about HTC Vive. Picked it up

1:34:07

when... We're

1:36:00

each up date. No one could be

1:36:02

oh my goodness, dude and applesocks keep

1:36:04

rising over time. Yeah Bob

1:36:08

sitting on the steam store chilling. Yeah I

1:38:00

was going to do a video and then my energy petered out

1:38:02

this week and I was like, I was having

1:38:04

too much fun on the Discord. But

1:38:08

what really goes on is this patent

1:38:10

is for dynamic difficulty across multiple games.

1:38:12

That's the huge switch here. So

1:38:16

imagine you have a profile with an

1:38:18

NFT in there because that's sort of what this in a weird way, that's sort

1:38:20

of what this is doing is because your unique data no one else has.

1:38:25

Every game you play, it takes all of your data. How fast

1:38:27

you shot an enemy. How fast you shot an enemy. How fast

1:38:29

you won the race. Race times, cars

1:38:32

you chose. How fast you

1:38:34

killed somebody in Street Fighter. Everything.

1:38:37

And the more data it gains, the more

1:38:39

it is able to identify your speed at

1:38:41

reaction times, your general, the

1:38:44

number of games you played in a certain genre. And

1:38:46

then when you open up a game, you might

1:38:48

have an additional difficulty level because the first thing

1:38:50

people worried about was would this replace hard, easy

1:38:52

and medium. It wouldn't outside

1:38:55

of Sony games because third party companies are

1:38:57

going to be making those difficulties for every

1:38:59

platform. That's a huge thing right there. Be

1:39:01

aware of that for anybody listening. But

1:39:04

what would happen was is you

1:39:06

were you would put this data in

1:39:08

and you would play a game and you

1:39:11

open up your fourth or fifth fighting game and

1:39:13

you do dynamic difficulty and it

1:39:15

can adjust as you play and say, okay,

1:39:17

Carrick is a little slow on this, a

1:39:19

little fast on this. Let's adjust the speed

1:39:21

or adjust health. There's a

1:39:23

boatload of problems people aren't realizing. For

1:39:25

example, one of the parts of the

1:39:27

patent is patently impossible

1:39:30

for every game, at least. And

1:39:32

that's adjusting animation speeds for stuff that literally

1:39:35

going into the engine. And do you know what you

1:39:37

could break if anybody doesn't want I'm talking about turn

1:39:39

Skyrim above 60 FPS without the

1:39:42

patch and what I was thinking of

1:39:44

when you were taking the part. Yeah,

1:39:46

all physics. Yeah. So it's

1:39:48

a great idea because it collects all

1:39:50

this data across multiple games. Is it

1:39:52

a good idea? I'm not done. Sorry.

1:39:55

It's a great idea. It's

1:39:58

a great idea because what It could

1:40:00

do is also they were even saying does this person

1:40:02

read the tutorial? We need to pop it

1:40:04

against we mentioned about I haven't played this game in

1:40:07

a while So what if it popped what if it

1:40:09

knows I haven't played Assassin's Creed Syndicate a while it's

1:40:11

like hey, bro But just are you handsome show the

1:40:13

water? Yeah. Yeah, you're like, do you remember how to

1:40:15

do this? Um As

1:40:20

I looked through everything what

1:40:22

it seems to me is All

1:40:25

this data it's gonna get would require

1:40:27

something that doesn't exist and

1:40:29

that's None of this

1:40:31

data is collected currently Yeah,

1:40:34

also a new player would not have

1:40:36

this data So that removes just

1:40:38

Sony games also because I said some get

1:40:40

you know third-party games. They won't want to

1:40:42

do this much But if

1:40:45

you get a first party game and you make a

1:40:47

new account That new

1:40:49

account will have no data which could

1:40:51

dramatically affect your dynamic difficulty versus say

1:40:53

another sign-in Let's say you have two

1:40:55

signings. I have three for NDAs one

1:40:58

that plays that's disconnected from everything for

1:41:00

playing you betas of games That

1:41:03

would have no data or completely skewed data

1:41:05

because maybe I'm just playing new games on

1:41:07

that So my entire statistics

1:41:09

are gathered incorrectly on that because it's

1:41:11

all games I'm played before which means

1:41:14

I'll be generically a little bit worse

1:41:16

at them So there's a

1:41:18

huge list of things. I like the

1:41:20

idea and I think it's actually a

1:41:23

good idea for testing and making games

1:41:26

Where you've done this and I've done this

1:41:28

where you get Warhammer 40k and you look

1:41:30

at the difficulty There's thousands of options in

1:41:32

Warhammer 40k rogue trainer Like

1:41:35

you remember in the difficulty section where it's like you

1:41:37

can adjust different enemies. Do you know what I'm talking

1:41:39

about? We're ever 40k. So you got something

1:41:41

like that, which is great. But a lot of game

1:41:43

players don't know What on it

1:41:45

has something akin to that too. Yeah, so

1:41:47

I love that I love it as a

1:41:49

test But I don't see any company removing

1:41:51

it and certainly not a third-party company because

1:41:53

they're gonna want their games to do a

1:41:55

certain Thing also some of the

1:41:57

changes they were talking about were dude We're

1:42:00

talking We're talking

1:42:02

engine changes man like stuff

1:42:04

that is for example speeding

1:42:06

up an animation in a game Let me just

1:42:09

point something out. We're having fps problems

1:42:11

already in game How

1:42:13

are you going to speed up the animation in a game if you're

1:42:15

locked at 30? What

1:42:18

are you talking about? How are you going to speed up the animation

1:42:20

if you're locked to 60 you could Maybe

1:42:22

depending on what that character is some

1:42:25

characters you're not going to be able to what if it's

1:42:27

a big boss You can't speed them up because you're already

1:42:29

hitting your framerate limit on your gp. And there's all these

1:42:31

Issues and what I believe soon. He was

1:42:34

doing is saying this is an idea we

1:42:36

have we may do something generic And

1:42:38

try it But it actually sounded

1:42:41

more along the lines of or what I

1:42:43

read more along the lines of okay Here's

1:42:45

a patent the ideas we have it's gonna

1:42:47

stop anybody from trying to patent really detailed

1:42:49

shit like nemesis But

1:42:52

sony files so many patents, I just want

1:42:54

to warn people that sony files a ton

1:42:56

of patents doesn't follow through on them a

1:42:58

ton of times I Just

1:43:01

feel it's more their idea of a futuristic thing

1:43:03

that they might do Could

1:43:05

be a family setting maybe where you go

1:43:07

in and say family setting let's use dynamic

1:43:09

difficulty But a lot of

1:43:11

these engines it would just be ridiculous What

1:43:14

what information is it going to take from

1:43:16

a fighter to a racing game? I'm better

1:43:18

at racing than I am at 2d fighters.

1:43:20

So that data is gonna be fucking skewed

1:43:23

Beyond all belief. I don't

1:43:25

want a 2d fighter to go karak's really good

1:43:27

at a racing game Let's crank up the dynamic

1:43:29

difficulty. You just get in school, you know, you're

1:43:32

just getting your ass roasted But

1:43:34

dynamic difficulty is already in many games so

1:43:37

You're gonna be doubling up on

1:43:39

dynamic difficulty because we've already seen

1:43:41

it multiple games have dynamic difficulty

1:43:43

dynamic difficulties For yeah, resident evil

1:43:45

for somebody mentioned, but we've got

1:43:47

ones that I was looking back

1:43:49

We have ancient ones, you

1:43:52

know that have already had slight adjustments to

1:43:54

things The

1:43:56

idea is good, but I think the patent at

1:43:58

least from what I read and I read the They

1:44:01

had all these documents, really cool

1:44:03

stuff. They had some great ideas,

1:44:05

but they're general ideas that I just want to tell

1:44:07

people, I don't think you should be too worried

1:44:09

that tomorrow, if

1:44:11

you do really well in a volleyball game, suddenly a wrestling

1:44:13

game is going to be harder. I just don't know. It

1:44:16

just doesn't. It doesn't sort of pan out with

1:44:18

the technology we have. That was my

1:44:20

thought. What were yours? For me,

1:44:23

so here's the thing. I

1:44:26

generally do not like the idea. For

1:44:28

me personally, if they were to do an option, like

1:44:30

as you said, I want to opt in for

1:44:33

dynamic difficulty, that would be cool. If it's ingrained

1:44:35

in their games, I just really, really dislike the

1:44:37

idea and I've disliked it in games before. I

1:44:40

have an aversion, and

1:44:43

I've talked about this a lot, to ultra

1:44:45

balancing everything to suit, to make

1:44:47

the game just on that middle

1:44:49

ground. Even

1:44:51

skill-based matchmaking in quick matches on Halo,

1:44:54

I like the, oh, this boss was

1:44:56

difficult. This level was difficult. This level

1:44:58

was too easy. They

1:45:00

can also change pacing in a game by

1:45:03

doing that, where they can take you

1:45:05

up valleys, down valleys, and make the game,

1:45:07

I think, more exciting when there's a lot

1:45:09

of variation in

1:45:12

that. Polar, you know, variation

1:45:14

in polarity and stuff like that. I

1:45:17

just don't like the way the

1:45:19

trend of modern games is just kind

1:45:21

of equalizing everything to make everything good

1:45:23

for everybody. Games

1:45:26

are always good, but that's like the thing

1:45:29

that screams at me, where it's like, oh, we're

1:45:31

balancing everything around how you play. And it's like,

1:45:33

oh, then I'm never going to get better. I'm

1:45:35

never going to overcome a challenge. And I think

1:45:38

overcoming challenges is really fun and it gives you

1:45:40

a dopamine hit, and it could

1:45:42

be very, very satisfying. So I don't

1:45:44

know what the hell that would, you know, what

1:45:46

precedent it would set or what it would do to

1:45:49

gaming. Well, and here's another thing, man.

1:45:52

So I talked about this in the video and then

1:45:54

just like I said, I can watch the video. I'm like,

1:45:56

I'm not, I'm not covering all this, but one of

1:45:58

the things I brought up in the was

1:46:00

parry timing for Liza P. So

1:46:03

if you look at Liza P parry timing, it is

1:46:05

quite tight. And I think even the people who were

1:46:07

really good at Liza P, the people who got good,

1:46:09

the people who hate it, will all agree that that

1:46:11

was their shtick, was a little bit tighter, parry time.

1:46:14

If you're adjusting the parry time dynamically,

1:46:18

dude, I don't

1:46:20

need that. I am... you need...

1:46:23

I need to know where the ladder rung is. Yeah,

1:46:25

and and there is a combo and a timing

1:46:27

in my where I'm like, okay, I step slightly

1:46:30

to the right boom. I mean, yeah, if that

1:46:32

fucking thing is going up and down, so

1:46:36

my opinion is they got to be smart.

1:46:38

That's my hope and they wouldn't do that.

1:46:40

So then I start looking at other stuff.

1:46:42

Okay, health, you know, maybe they give you a little bit more health. But

1:46:45

here's the big problem too. If

1:46:47

that entire experience is nullified... If

1:46:51

that entire thing is, I guess, not

1:46:54

nullified, but if that entire thing is

1:46:56

sort of numbed down to a generic

1:46:58

average for me, then I

1:47:01

can't even tell the other person who's playing

1:47:03

it if it's difficult or not. Because

1:47:06

at that point things change and I think

1:47:08

a huge amount of the zeitgeist around games

1:47:10

is what's the

1:47:12

challenge level of this? For example, all these

1:47:14

Dark Souls games, usually we talk about one or

1:47:17

two things on each one that's different and you're

1:47:19

like, okay, Neo's got this. Dark

1:47:21

Souls has this. Forgotten Lords has this. Baba Bla

1:47:23

has this. If we can't... if

1:47:26

it's all dumbed down, I think that there's

1:47:28

actually this nebulous zone where it's now it's difficult

1:47:31

to talk about the one main thing the

1:47:33

game hasn't or should have in common. And

1:47:36

so I just don't think that's where they're going with

1:47:38

this. I think that it's more lines of just some

1:47:41

sort of the more generic, hey, you played this game.

1:47:43

It's been a while. You listened

1:47:45

to tutorials. We've tracked that you used it.

1:47:48

I like that idea. So do I and

1:47:50

like they could say when I show a

1:47:52

tutorial, Karrick uses that move without any enemies

1:47:54

three or four times. That means he's testing

1:47:56

that move. So he pays attention to the

1:47:58

tutorial. This guy needed... it twice. Then

1:48:03

you're going to get the guy who it looks like

1:48:05

he needed it twice, but really he just did it

1:48:07

because he was worried the tutorial would pop up again.

1:48:09

And so he's like, yeah, and by the way, I'll

1:48:12

see his tutorial and I'll be like, ignore it and

1:48:14

then it'll pop up again. I'll be like, motherfucker, I'm

1:48:16

going with the right bumper. I'm going to do like,

1:48:18

10 times in a row now. Yeah,

1:48:20

yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah,

1:48:22

nah, nah. And you're like, do you understand? And then the

1:48:24

game will be all, okay. He's got it. Well, that's a

1:48:26

good use case because I went back to God of War

1:48:28

for the DLC and you already have all your skills. And

1:48:31

I was like, oh shit, I have three weapons with all

1:48:33

like different skills for each one. Forgot

1:48:35

everything. So yeah, yeah. Yeah.

1:48:38

But then there is a line. Oh my

1:48:40

God. What game kept giving me tutorials over

1:48:42

and over again? Oh my God. It pissed

1:48:44

me off, dude. Didn't Mirage get pop tutorials

1:48:47

at the starting? I feel like

1:48:49

it was Mirage recently for some reason. I could

1:48:51

be wrong on that, but. Yeah, Mirage division did

1:48:53

that a bunch. Yeah. No, there was one where

1:48:55

I was like, oh, by the way, you can

1:48:58

reload. Oh fuck. I forgot what it

1:49:00

was, but it was already good. I

1:49:03

had that. That is a game that came

1:49:05

out recently. Yeah. Where it was reminding me of

1:49:07

something so generic, but it wouldn't go where it

1:49:10

was kept pop. What the fuck

1:49:12

was that? But that didn't

1:49:14

pop up. I think we talked about it. We did. Maybe

1:49:16

Spider-Man or no? It

1:49:20

wasn't Spider-Man. I don't know what it was, but I

1:49:22

know for a fact that we were like, why is

1:49:24

it still telling me this? Yeah, yeah,

1:49:26

yeah. It's the game maker too. And then again,

1:49:28

that would mean they'd have to have some kind

1:49:30

of touch with the code of third party games,

1:49:33

which I don't think a lot of third party,

1:49:35

even Microsoft might say, we don't

1:49:37

want it dynamically changing on another platform. And

1:49:40

I'm sure Sony would bitch that you have a problem

1:49:42

even with cross play, which is both controllers and they

1:49:44

can't agree. So there's a lot of stuff. I

1:49:47

like the idea of saying, Hey, man, you played this

1:49:49

a bunch. You pay attention to tutorials,

1:49:51

but it's been six months. Let's pop a couple